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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #100 on: December 08, 2010, 08:36:18 am »
Dude needs to work on his timing and tighten up his act a little bit, but certainly light years ahead of 2 on the comedy front.

Also hahaha suing for breech of contract yes go on dig that hole even deeper

Yeah, at least Bill sticks to shit that everybody can relate to.  That is why "the humans" think he is funnier than 2.
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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #101 on: December 13, 2010, 08:35:20 pm »
I find it funny that whenever something goes his way, it's all due to his great comedic skills but as soon as he suffers a setback it's always some other person's fault? He seems like a person with a narcissistic personality - the one post about his first 'big' show is pretentious as fuck. All the asspat comments are funny too; do people expect to become popular by association if they kiss his ass constantly?

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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #102 on: December 13, 2010, 11:33:37 pm »
do people expect to become popular by association if they kiss his ass constantly?

Doesn't that describe most furries?

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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #103 on: December 14, 2010, 05:06:21 am »
do people expect to become popular by association if they kiss his ass constantly?

Doing that to Kage is essentially how he became popular.
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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #104 on: December 14, 2010, 09:04:36 am »
do people expect to become popular by association if they kiss his ass constantly?

Doing that to Kage is essentially how he became popular.

I don't think it was Conway's ass he was kissing.

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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #105 on: August 07, 2011, 01:33:02 pm »
What pisses me off about this guy is threefold:

1) He lets fame get to his head. Sorry back in the day when he was starting out we were friends. We talked and we hung out at cons and whatever I bought him meals because I didn't mind because that's what friends do right? Right? Now it's like "Oh I am uber popular and I expect to be catered to and blah blah blah" and y'know what? That's fricking retarded. You're popular in a FURRY FANDOM. You're popular in a fandom where the biggest con attendance is not over 5,000 and what does Comic Con do a day? at least 120,000! Which leads me to ...

2) He thinks he can actually go somewhere with his talent. He has no backup plan, no plan at all and sponges off furries who think he's "cool". No y'know what cool is? Cool is owning up to your responsibilities and getting a job and joining the rest of us instead of being a lazy dreamer who thinks he's going to go on worldwide TV and entertain millions. Reality check there genius.. there are hundreds of THOUSANDS of stand up comics. Most of them I have not even heard of and they have shows on Comedy Central but that's as far as it goes. Most of these people don't ever get up to the standards of Dennis Leary, Robin Williams, George Carlin and those are a SELECT FEW people who have made it that big. Most don't get that popular and if they do they have to work at it night and day and do it while.. guess what.. holding down a REGULAR JOB. When I asked him if he was going to get a job he said "I can't do that and do 2 sense and all the other stuff there's just not enough time in the day.." Right.

3) He thinks he deserves special treatment. Why? Because you can get up on stage and make people laugh? Look I can make people laugh.. anyone can.. it's not really that f-ing hard. But when I demand that I get flown to Europe and have my "best pal Kage" asking for people to donate money so they can get him there.. no.. that's gone too fucking far. If the con wants to pay his way that's their ass.. likewise if Kage wants to dip into the 100k+ a year he's making from his regular job to pay for his ticket again that's his ass.. but asking PEOPLE to pay his way? NO. Fuck that! What the fuck do I get out of the deal? If I were to go ahead and pay for his way to a con what do I get out of it? That people get to be entertained? BIG FUCKING DEAL! Go buy one of the DVDS and watch it in your room or host a room party so you can get the same experience at a con and STILL have money left over to spend on things you want!

So in closing.. he's not talented.. or edgy.. he's just a user. And that's all he will be.

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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #106 on: August 08, 2011, 09:05:33 pm »
So in closing.. he's not talented.. or edgy.. he's just a user. And that's all he will be.

Ranting and pointing his finger at everything but his heart.

We'll miss him.  We're gonna miss him.
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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #107 on: August 11, 2011, 06:49:15 pm »
do people expect to become popular by association if they kiss his ass constantly?

Doing that to Kage is essentially how he became popular.

Once the first few of his Denis-Leary-ripoff rants hit the net, they had a symbiotic relationship. 2 used Kage for fame and leech popularity and Kage used 2 to say the politically incorrect things that Kage couldn't say. 2 especially used to do this on Furrymuck. Kage would come in, conveniently introduce a topic, and 2 would start tearing it apart for the assembled audience.

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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #108 on: October 20, 2011, 12:24:34 pm »
http://twitter.com/#!/ToastTheRabbit/status/127054647331536896

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@2_gryphon performing live at @TheComedyStore Saturday oct 29 @7:30 Original room. Show up in costume mention gryphon get half price @ door!

It appears he'll be the warmup act for some other guy who was on "Last Comic Standing".

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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #109 on: October 21, 2011, 11:36:41 am »
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Show up in costume, mention gryphon get half price @ door!

HA, HA, HA, oh wow...

So, an open invite to furries basically.

I wanna go just to see the reactions from the other half of the crowd that has never heard of furries and doesn't understand why all these people wearing tails and ears and dog costumes keep finding these jokes about some "bad dragon" guy so funny.

2's jokes about the furry fandom are actually kind of funny, but I really wonder how much of his humor can translate to something the mundanes will understand, I mean, most of his material, if not explicitly furry-related is at least centered on geek culture.

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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #110 on: October 21, 2011, 05:07:32 pm »
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Show up in costume, mention gryphon get half price @ door!

HA, HA, HA, oh wow...

So, an open invite to furries basically.

Didn't we discuss this earlier in the thread; this is how these clubs try to capitalize/minimize their losses on niche or unknown comedians- get their friends from back home, or their online followers, or whatever- to come see them. Theoretically buy drinks and then stay on for the "real" act. It makes sense except that these are furries; well known for not tipping and not being real super guests at restaurants and stuff.

So whoever's doing this clearly hasn't had experience with furries in groups going out on the town. They'll never make that mistake again.
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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #111 on: October 21, 2011, 08:45:40 pm »
Man I would just lose my shit if people started denying gigs to 2 explicitly because of his fan base coming in and shitting up the joint.

Not that I think his 'comedy' would stand on its own anyway but that'd just be amazing if they blamed the furries.

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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #112 on: October 21, 2011, 11:23:06 pm »
Didn't we discuss this earlier in the thread; this is how these clubs try to capitalize/minimize their losses on niche or unknown comedians- get their friends from back home, or their online followers, or whatever- to come see them. Theoretically buy drinks and then stay on for the "real" act. It makes sense except that these are furries; well known for not tipping and not being real super guests at restaurants and stuff.

So whoever's doing this clearly hasn't had experience with furries in groups going out on the town. They'll never make that mistake again.
Man I would just lose my shit if people started denying gigs to 2 explicitly because of his fan base coming in and shitting up the joint.

Not that I think his 'comedy' would stand on its own anyway but that'd just be amazing if they blamed the furries.

Why exactly do you think furries are such horrible patrons?

Everything I've read from the papers covering cons and such mentions businesses being extremely grateful for the furries presence and saying the furries were extremely polite... bowling alleys give fursuiters free games, that sort of thing. I have rarely heard of places asking furries not to come back. A little confirmation bias here, sure, but every con I've been to, I go out with the local restaurants and try to get out of the hotel a couple times a day, and I've always seen lots of furries acting normally (albeit wearing tails) at restaurants and I've always seen tons of furries spending money at the hotel bar.

Sure, a group of strange people show up at your restaurant and they wear tails and shit, but furries tend not to do this at upper crust places. So furries don't tend to buy top-shelf alcohol... big deal. Although I did see someone buy Kage a $20 glass of high end scotch. We tend to spend a little money without causing trouble. They may not tip big, that isn't the management's problem. If enough of them show up and order 2 well drinks each, you still make money on what is otherwise a slow night. My mom used to own a singles bar. You wouldn't believe the stuff people do when they're drunk. People would constantly try to rip off the place, guys would get in fights and break shit, girls would get in fights and throw glasses at each other... Furries have their drama but we're mostly way too nerdy for that. What's the worst thing a furry did? Throw himself down the stairs? The last thing a comedy club wants is the cops showing up and killing the mood. Furries aren't likely to do that.


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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #113 on: October 22, 2011, 02:53:24 am »
Why exactly do you think furries are such horrible patrons?

Everything I've read from the papers covering cons and such mentions businesses being extremely grateful for the furries presence and saying the furries were extremely polite... bowling alleys give fursuiters free games, that sort of thing. I have rarely heard of places asking furries not to come back.

It really depends on the group of people. I know the local furry group has (used to, at least, I stopped checking in) a really hard time with "behaving appropriately" and would get kicked out of every bowling alley or restaurant they went to. They'd go to restaurants and look at porn on laptops in full view of everyone, would leave without paying, would get a little gropey at bowling alleys, they'd not follow the directions laid out by the bowling alley, etc. They got kicked out of enough bowling alleys in the area that word started getting around and they'd get denied requests to hold meets at ones they'd never been to. I stopped participating in the mailing list because I got tired of seeing this:

[MAILLIST] Bowling meet this saturday!!!
[MAILLIST] RE: Bowling meet this saturday!!!
[MAILLIST] Post-Bowling Meet Outing at Dennys!
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[MAILLIST] KICKED OUT OF DENNYS
[MAILLIST] Next months bowling meet canceled, need to find new venue!

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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #114 on: October 22, 2011, 06:11:26 am »
I don't blame anyone for not buying alcohol out on the town; since I know the profit margin on that sort of thing is obscene. I'm a conservative person when it comes to my own personal finances, honestly. If the entire business model is predicated on that (as it tends to be with comedy clubs), I'd just rather not go.

I meant more that furries seem to have a problem with basic courtesy such as tipping. There's a difference between being a stingy bastard and wanting to get value for your money. A lot of furries clearly don't seem to want the latter; as evidenced by their spending on video games and gadgets.
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Re: 2 gryphon gets a break, of sorts
« Reply #115 on: October 22, 2011, 09:08:57 am »

It really depends on the group of people. I know the local furry group has (used to, at least, I stopped checking in) a really hard time with "behaving appropriately" and would get kicked out of every bowling alley or restaurant they went to. They'd go to restaurants and look at porn on laptops in full view of everyone, would leave without paying, would get a little gropey at bowling alleys, they'd not follow the directions laid out by the bowling alley, etc. They got kicked out of enough bowling alleys in the area that word started getting around and they'd get denied requests to hold meets at ones they'd never been to. I stopped participating in the mailing list because I got tired of seeing this:

Where do you live? I think it depends a lot on the part of the country (or which country) you're in, as to how far you can push the envelope as far as public behavior goes. And, let's compare apples to apples here, a raunchy comedy club is not a family friendly bowling alley.

As far as the things people do in "adult" establishments, I think furries are pretty tame. Believe it or not, it's the otherwise normal people who tend to get out of line when drunk.

I don't blame anyone for not buying alcohol out on the town; since I know the profit margin on that sort of thing is obscene. I'm a conservative person when it comes to my own personal finances, honestly. If the entire business model is predicated on that (as it tends to be with comedy clubs), I'd just rather not go.

I meant more that furries seem to have a problem with basic courtesy such as tipping. There's a difference between being a stingy bastard and wanting to get value for your money. A lot of furries clearly don't seem to want the latter; as evidenced by their spending on video games and gadgets.

I think you can break furries down into 2 groups of people. There are the  furries who can hold down a job and can still function in society when happy, fun, furry time is over. People who have fursuits and travel long distances to cons tend to be these people, since those require a lot of disposable income. And then there is everybody else who brings the fail. I would think this being a 21+ venue and having a cover charge would discourage the latter group from attending in the first place.

I understand how you feel about furries being stingy. The local fur meets/BBQ here have all but vanished, mostly because the guys running it got burnt out on doing it so many times and having 50+ people show up, of whom only about 10% were willing to make any contribution to the cause. Most of the people wouldn't even put $2 in a jar to help fund the event, which is less than the cost of a bus ride to get there. So the organizers wound up losing money every time. Seriously, if you can't come up with $2, WTF???!!1 A couple guys want to get another meetup going and want my mate and I to organize it, apparently we are the most responsible furries in the area now and we kind of get this feeling of do not want.

I've heard the same thing from other people about furries not expecting to tip. I don't know where that comes from, maybe these people have never gone out on the town in their whole lives, but I don't think the management of a comedy club would care. Well, they might care a little bit but their main concern is getting bodies in the door, not how much their staff made on tips that night.