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Several FA admins quit at once
« on: October 28, 2011, 04:48:47 am »
Recently some people gathered up "dox" on many of the FA staff, compiled it into a list and put that list on pastebin. It was linked to on lulz.net.

One person on lulz.net said of the dox: "They used Google and didn't try very hard. I'd give it a 2/10 for effort". However, it does seem to have been the straw that broke the camels back and 4 admins have quit. They were new admins who'd been brought over from furocity as part of the "merger".

The most detailed statement was given by photografuhrer, the TL:DR being that "I’ve seen FA from behind the scenes. The administrative foundation of FA is badly broken, and the site owners seem unwilling or unable to make the tough decisions that will better serve the site and its users."

Quote from: photografuhrer
I’m a published photographer with nearly 20 years of experience. I’ve been the head of photography over at Furocity for over 2 years. I was asked by one of FA’s site owners to come here and use my experience in the photography field to knowledgeably resolve photo tickets and help users. The same holds true for the other Furocity Admins and their departments.

The site owners repeatedly gave all administrators, old and new, an Administrator Code Of Conduct, which stated that we were to only handle tickets that pertained to our departments (so that rulings could be made by people who understood the intricacies of the art form), as well as how to act professionally. From day-one, some of the original FA administrators have blatantly ignored the Admin Code Of Conduct, repeatedly handling trouble tickets outside of their departments (after countless warnings from owners, and while their own departments’ Terms Of Service tickets go unresolved), undermined and overturned Department Heads’ rulings, shown gross ignorance towards the AUP, spread false information about the AUP and site policies, botched countless trouble ticket rulings, acted unprofessionally, leaked private site information, and have intentionally hampered the ticket/administration process at every turn (we have found proof of this from chat logs, notes, and trouble tickets). Their actions have been childish, petty, and detrimental to the site and its users. The original site owner has known about this gross misconduct, but no action has been taken and nothing has improved. We found evidence in trouble tickets, chat logs, and notes that some of the FA admins were intentionally leaking private information, ignoring site policy, and trying to sabotage the administrative process. The original site owner (Dragoneer) has not effectively reprimanded or fired ANY of the offending admins under his leadership. Every gross violation and problem is met with weak excuses, indifference, and endless second chances. There is no leadership or follow-through.

People with little or no administrative experience, who know nothing about photography, are striving to alter the AUP and destroy the works of fellow photographers and the art form I love.

I’ve seen FA from behind the scenes. The administrative foundation of FA is badly broken, and the site owners seem unwilling or unable to make the tough decisions that will better serve the site and its users.

These issues have made it impossible for me to perform my duties and serve FA’s users in a way that I feel is effective and beneficial. Therefore I am stepping down as an administrator.

I don’t for a moment feel bad for me or any of the staff. I feel bad for you, the user. You deserve a Hell of a lot better.

Please know I tried my best to help users and elevate the art of photography.

Keep creating. Share your heart and vision. Your art is more important than any website.

http://i.imgur.com/qLUfZ.png

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/photografuhrer

Other admins who resigned:

Quote from: WriterWren
I'm sorry that I have to leave. I had so many high hopes to make a difference here. Unfortunately, circumstances are forcing me to leave. I could deal with hostile admins, but the security issues force me to be realistic about everything.

I apologize to everyone. I did not want to leave. And I hate doing so. I had hoped I would be here for a long time, but that is not the case.

Please be at peace and write with the fire in your hearts and a million universes springing to life in your head.

Thank you, everyone.

Tusen takk!

PS: No, I am not killing myself. Merely removing myself from FA and returning home to Furocity.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2855774/

Quote from: Luftwooffe
Mark it zero Dude.
Due to circumstances out my control I will be ending my work here on FA.

I had hopes to make a difference, unfortunately here is where I tried to and the gods will never let this happen here. If your upset because I removed youe pictures of your pussles/assholes, guns, blurry photographs, cock-vore latex suits.

At all times I have tried to honestly improve your user experience but with the weak, unprofessional, childish original staff this proved to be to great a challenge. Being met with endless bickering and bullshit a simple job of helping users on an community art website is impossible.

I certainly wish good luck to the users who fancy photography, your "new" admin staff will be with you prompty.

I'm sure the old administration will continue the TIP TOP job of serving you, the furry community, the very best that you most certainly deserve.

Ohh well,
Back to surfing Reddit

-Luftwooffe

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2855860/

Quote from:  Grammatist

Greetings,

Certain events have transpired that made me question how secure my personal information actually is on FA. I do not wish to be a target for anyone with sinister goals and as such, I've issued my resignation. There were some bumps, but I think it was a pretty good, if short, run.

Perhaps I will see some of you in another lifetime.

-The Grammatist

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2855806/

Also, http://www.furaffinity.net/user/silverrwolfe, is no longer an admin. Whether he was pushed or jumped I dunno, however he was always indolent so it is no loss.
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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 07:43:29 am »
One person on lulz.net said of the dox: "They used Google and didn't try very hard. I'd give it a 2/10 for effort".

I found the post on lulz and had a look myself. It's almost entirely Google results and WHOIS info. They even used Google's cache of yiffyleaks rather than a direct link for extra bonus points. Somehow some of the admins interpreted this as FA having security issues. Not that FA doesn't have security issues, but to attribute FA's security issues to causing/helping this is stupid. Then again maybe they are just using it as an excuse to get the hell away from FA and it's terrible administrative set up.

The most detailed statement was given by photografuhrer, the TL:DR being that "I’ve seen FA from behind the scenes. The administrative foundation of FA is badly broken, and the site owners seem unwilling or unable to make the tough decisions that will better serve the site and its users."

That sounds about right.

Also, http://www.furaffinity.net/user/silverrwolfe, is no longer an admin. Whether he was pushed or jumped I dunno, however he was always indolent so it is no loss.

I wouldn't be surprised to see this useless idiot being the guy photografuhrer was mostly referring to in this part:

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The original site owner (Dragoneer) has not effectively reprimanded or fired ANY of the offending admins under his leadership. Every gross violation and problem is met with weak excuses, indifference, and endless second chances. There is no leadership or follow-through.

Hasn't this guy been removed before two or three times, then cries like a baby until Sean reinstates him? Even if he stays off the admin list, it's probably too little too late. I'm wondering who these other useless admins are though that he refers to; I was under the impression the ones remaining were (relatively) competent.
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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 08:05:42 am »
If you get spooked off by this shitty doxing attempt, maybe you shouldn't be on the internet.

Also it's entirely possible that some of these toolbags didn't know about yiffyleaks until this event. It sounds like the kind of thing that Piche would go to great effort to not talk about.
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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 08:24:51 am »
Then again maybe they are just using it as an excuse to get the hell away from FA and it's terrible administrative set up.

That's my guess. 

The post from photografuhrer suggests to me that there have been plenty of conflicts among the staff prior to this.  I'd think that if they're competent enough to be admins, they're competent enough to know that all the dox that got dropped were already readily available.  Not that I'm insinuating that FurAffinity has a history of hiring competent admins...
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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 10:54:23 am »
Quote from: Dragoneer
Somebody decided to "dox" the admins, and posted their findings last night in a release. Some of the Furocity admins didn't take too well to that, and outright left over the doxing in and of itself. I can't comment on the other issues, because as of right now both myself and Daemonshyai have been blindsided by it.

I'm trying to find out more about the details right now, and what they're claiming.

http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/109202-FA-Furocity-4-months-on.?p=2728631&viewfull=1#post2728631

Quote from: Dragoneer
And you're completely right on that, but if issues aren't communicated to me then there's little I can do about them. We're re-coding the entire ticketing system to make it more efficient and easier to manage, and allow Moderators of our choosing to help regulate the site as well by reporting submissions. We've been doing a lot to improve things, but if basic communication breaks down...

All I know is that one of the admins who left last night came into admin chat concerned about the "dox", and everybody left all at once (pretty much within an hour).

http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/109202-FA-Furocity-4-months-on.?p=2728637&viewfull=1#post2728637

The dox thing was weak but it looks like it was just the straw that broke the camels back with the Furocity admins.
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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2011, 12:56:32 pm »

Quote from: Dragoneer
Somebody decided to "dox" the admins, and posted their findings last night in a release. Some of the Furocity admins didn't take too well to that, and outright left over the doxing in and of itself. I can't comment on the other issues, because as of right now both myself and Daemonshyai have been blindsided by it.

Seeing as photografuhrer, luftwoofe, and grammatist were among the ones that had no dox doxed, I have a hard time believing that they left over it.

Quote from: Dragoneer
And you're completely right on that, but if issues aren't communicated to me then there's little I can do about them. We're re-coding the entire ticketing system to make it more efficient and easier to manage, and allow Moderators of our choosing to help regulate the site as well by reporting submissions.

This is an awful idea and seems to be an easy way out of setting up a submission reporting feature.

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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2011, 01:27:47 pm »
Quote from: Dragoneer
We've been doing a lot to improve things

Of all the things Dragoneer said in those two posts, this is the one that I have the hardest time believing.

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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2011, 02:04:34 pm »
Also it's entirely possible that some of these toolbags didn't know about yiffyleaks until this event. It sounds like the kind of thing that Piche would go to great effort to not talk about.

Entirely possible. Furthermore, they might not have realised the exact nature and extent of the leaks, and with no one to tell them otherwise, assumed the worst - i.e. that it was purposefully leaked by staff and contained vastly more information than it really does.

Quote from: Dragoneer
All I know is that one of the admins who left last night came into admin chat concerned about the "dox", and everybody left all at once (pretty much within an hour).
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Because of the timing of this, not much could be done last night before sane people in North America went to sleep.

Theory: Dox released, new admins shit pants and discuss leaks among themselves, reach invalid conclusion with no one to tell them otherwise, leave.
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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2011, 03:07:09 pm »
SilverRWolfe made a journal about his resignation:

Quote from: Silver_R_Wolfe
So as of today, I have officially resigned as an Administrator for FurAffinity.

It has been a long ride and I loved helping, becoming involved and giving back to this community that I called my online home. What we did wasn't always popular but I'm still glad to have been apart of it.

My resignation is one of personal choice. No drama or other circumstances had anything to do with it. Unfortunately as my day job became more prominent and demanding as my living situation became more frantic and equally demanding, my time to commit to FA dwindled.

I don't believe in doing a job half-assed and since I couldn't fulfill the requirements I wanted to fulfill, I decided the best step was to step down.

Thank you to all who have thanked me for my work over the years and it was an honor to help those who I did. I hope that your experience here was at least a little better because I was working behind the scenes.

Enjoy FA! Now w/ less Wuffa. Call it FurAffinity Zero. All the arts with zero... well, fewer calories!

Isn't this the guy who cried and threw a tantrum when he was de-admined for being dead weight back when Arshes Nei demanded Dragoneer to do something about all the dead beat admins?

And then a day later he got put back on the admin team because of...whatever?

Yeah.
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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2011, 07:05:10 pm »
Hahahaha.  're-coding the ticketing system'.

Hey Piche, I know you and your lackeys read this.  Here's a free ProTip from a for-realsies real system administrator on how exactly to accomplish this.

1: rm -rf current_ticketing_system
2: cd /usr/ports/www/rt38
3: make install

You're welcome!

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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2011, 07:10:39 pm »
The fact that some of the admins (Dragoneer and Cerberus mainly) are spinning this into "They left because of the doxing!" (Mostly on this journal and on FAF) pretty much tells me they left for other reasons and used this as a convenient excuse. "I'm worried about my personal information being leaked" is much different than "My services here are not wanted nor appreciated by the previous admin staff. " and "At all times I have tried to honestly improve your user experience but with the weak, unprofessional, childish original staff this proved to be to great a challenge. Being met with endless bickering and bullshit a simple job of helping users on an community art website is impossible."



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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2011, 08:08:46 pm »
What we did wasn't always popular but I'm still glad to have been apart of it.

That's a rather ironic grammatical fuckup. 
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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2011, 10:11:39 pm »
Hey former-FA admins!

We've set up a ~special~ email address just for you!  That's right, just email fasucks at vivisector dot org from any anonymous mailing service and share your thoughts!  Assuming the spam filter doesn't eat it, we'll gladly post any info you wish to share incognito!

C'mon, do it faggots!

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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2011, 07:39:48 am »
So that guy's name is Photogra-fuhrer, as in fuhrer, Hilter fuhrer? Sure sounds professional to me!
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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2011, 11:38:19 am »
Hey former-FA admins!

We've set up a ~special~ email address just for you!  That's right, just email fasucks at vivisector dot org from any anonymous mailing service and share your thoughts!  Assuming the spam filter doesn't eat it, we'll gladly post any info you wish to share incognito!

C'mon, do it faggots!

This is a fantastic idea, actually. I think we should do something more general- along the lines of what Gawker does, have a tips@vivisector.org thing, and I guess maybe a little less anonymity than that...of course any tipsters would have to trust us not to stab them in the back. But it would lend credibility to such an operation.

People could set up an anonymous Gmail or whatever, so that we could get back in touch with them. But this is still a great idea. If we already do such a thing, we really need to promote it more.
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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2011, 06:15:57 pm »
So much for the Furocity "merger".  I doubt any other Furocity people will sign up to be on FA staff in the future.

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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2011, 07:17:03 pm »
Shame redcoatcat didn't leave a journal like the others.

Now it's just Luhka and Gavin left from the furocity "merger".
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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2011, 11:15:51 pm »
Furocity.com is now redirecting (301) to Inkbunny, apparently as of a few hours ago. (First we heard  about it was when people started filing tickets.)

I'm guessing this is related to the above, though perhaps others have their own theories.

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Re: Several FA admins quit at once
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2011, 11:59:53 pm »
Furocity.com is now redirecting (301) to Inkbunny, apparently as of a few hours ago. (First we heard  about it was when people started filing tickets.)

I'm guessing this is related to the above, though perhaps others have their own theories.

Furocity's subdomains now redirect to a youtube video, as I mentioned in the new thread about this matter.