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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #60 on: February 11, 2011, 12:10:59 pm »
I don't hate 'Neer, I just realize that he's got a lot of issues. Hell, I have a lot of issues myself. But even I recognize that FA is being run in a haphazard manner that all but ensures its own demise. Dragoneer needs to pull his head out of his ass and face his responsibilities.

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #61 on: February 11, 2011, 12:17:19 pm »
It wasn't exactly in public. Let's just say he didn't like the wording of said journal, and used your tweet as evidence of a "huge amount of drama" in an attempt to have the journal reworded.

Oh wow. That's...that's just special, right there.

Anyhow, that TT thread by Arshes is still active and I'm scrutinizing it to see the responses. I'm also surprised there has not been one single public reply by Dragoneer on it either and I'm betting he will remain out of it out of fear of being hammered by criticism and flames.

I think he realizes that if he does anything to that thread - posts in it, locks it, deletes it - he's going to catch a lot of crap regardless. He's not touching it with a ten foot pole unless he absolutely has to.

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #62 on: February 11, 2011, 01:07:05 pm »
Inkbunny would be just like any other furry art site if you simply add "cub" to the banned keywords list, if cub porn isn't your fancy. I hate it and that's what I did.


Anyhow, that TT thread by Arshes is still active and I'm scrutinizing it to see the responses. I'm also surprised there has not been one single public reply by Dragoneer on it either and I'm betting he will remain out of it out of fear of being hammered by criticism and flames.

Yeah, I find it interesting pre-AlertPay Fiasco that people would bitch and complain about InkBunny and how they would never go there because of the cub stuff and the staff's love of it, yet use FA despite the fact FA allowed it, Dragoneer's persona is IN cub porn, and InkBunny actually has a system in place to filter out that and other artwork. I would say that site would get a huge influx and perhaps become the largest. It has name recognition (even if a lot of that is notoriety) and the administration and technical staff seem competent. Have any of you heard of any drama coming from IB's staff handlings? From FA's it's practically constant. Oh, and Dragoneer said once he wasn't sure if he was on good terms with Jery, so that's always good.

I was sure a day or two into it that Dragoneer wouldn't show himself. I don't know if I was surprised at all, but I expected after 48 hours he would never show, given how dire and embarrassing that thread was. I lost what little respect I had for him by his cowardice, and I had no idea the inactive staff issue was so serious. Was Jheryn actually WORSE than Dragoneer?

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #63 on: February 11, 2011, 02:38:56 pm »
no, it is about dollars...eventually. He wants to make the site profitable so that he can show the detactors. He wants to be able to say "I told you so" and bask in its glory. Same with FAU, everything he touches, he turns into a LLC.

Pretty much this. He wants to be "successful"- have respect and have money. Problem is, you can give white trash all the money in the world and they'll still fucking be white trash. If he ever wins the lottery he'll still spend his days playing TF2 fueled by energy drinks and Doritos.
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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #64 on: February 11, 2011, 04:09:28 pm »
It wasn't exactly in public. Let's just say he didn't like the wording of said journal, and used your tweet as evidence of a "huge amount of drama" in an attempt to have the journal reworded.

Hahah wow WHAT. I'm not surprised in the least but thats pretty damn petty.

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #65 on: February 11, 2011, 04:10:35 pm »
No negativity. EVER.

Denial: the first of the five stages of grief.

Wonder how long the other four will take, and if he'll go through them before or after FurAffinity actually dies off.

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2011, 04:14:12 pm »
It wasn't exactly in public. Let's just say he didn't like the wording of said journal, and used your tweet as evidence of a "huge amount of drama" in an attempt to have the journal reworded.

Hahah wow WHAT. I'm not surprised in the least but thats pretty damn petty.

No negativity. EVER.

Even when there's no negativity anywhere except his own mind/outside the realm of his control.

The more I think about it, the more he strikes me as a control freak. Whatever he can keep in his control, he does. Whatever is out of his control, he freaks out over, and controls what he can, all for the sake of his own image.

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #67 on: February 11, 2011, 04:40:51 pm »
The more I think about it, the more he strikes me as a control freak. Whatever he can keep in his control, he does. Whatever is out of his control, he freaks out over, and controls what he can, all for the sake of his own image.

That's pretty much exactly how I'm seeing it, especially given things said about him in regards to letting other people help him fix the site. If he can't fully control the people working for him, then he has no use for them. It's why I'm thinking that the only reason he hasn't fired Arshes and Pinkuh is because he knows the backlash from doing it would be too big for him to handle.

Sad, really. I have a host of psychological and emotional issues, and even I think 'Neer is fucked up. What does that say about him?

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #68 on: February 13, 2011, 10:21:47 pm »
And making news today, it looks like someone forgot to tell the staff of the downtime announced last week. It should be noted that I've personally seen both net-cat and Yak in that thread, and they have not offered any insight into whether or not it's even still happening.

Meanwhile, a new frontpage news item has appeared.
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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #69 on: February 14, 2011, 06:21:24 am »
Aahaha, they're going to have an "app"? And Apple does *not* block porn (anymore), provided you are an adult and you opt-in. Or something. And wth does "waiting on proper API support" mean i.r.t WP7? And is the only reason they care about that platform is because Dragoneer (at one point) had a WP7 phone? Shit, dudes, it's Microsoft. They make it a priority to make it easy for drooling idiots from Tajikistan to be able to program for their platform.
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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #70 on: February 14, 2011, 06:46:58 am »
What happened to a global email to all FA mods and staff member rather than a select few, as some don't even use Twitter?


Yea, I'm pretty annoyed at all the stupid shit that's been happening to the site lately but I'm doing my damnedest not to go at a full out flamefest.

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #71 on: February 14, 2011, 06:49:43 am »
A full e-mail to all staff members? Really? Rumor has it the TT e-mail didn't even go out to all staff members. Supposedly there was staff for whom Dragoneer had correct e-mail addresses (had he bothered to actually check his inbox, or you know, ask them) but he sent the TT e-mail out to incorrect e-mail addresses anyway.

And now, with staff holding him accountable, you expect him to begin communicating with them? Are you nuts?

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #72 on: February 14, 2011, 11:17:57 am »
Aahaha, they're going to have an "app"? And Apple does *not* block porn (anymore), provided you are an adult and you opt-in. Or something. And wth does "waiting on proper API support" mean i.r.t WP7? And is the only reason they care about that platform is because Dragoneer (at one point) had a WP7 phone? Shit, dudes, it's Microsoft. They make it a priority to make it easy for drooling idiots from Tajikistan to be able to program for their platform.

By the time FA has API support, the internet will be beamed directly into our heads.

I don't see why they need an app at all. All they really need is a mobile version of the site...

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #73 on: February 14, 2011, 03:26:09 pm »
All they really need is a mobile version of the site...

That would require the actual site to work well first.

God knows that's not happening any time soon.

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #74 on: February 14, 2011, 03:43:51 pm »
Pretty much this. He wants to be "successful"- have respect and have money. Problem is, you can give white trash all the money in the world and they'll still fucking be white trash. If he ever wins the lottery he'll still spend his days playing TF2 fueled by energy drinks and Doritos.

This falls into the same category separating the rich and the wealthy. Imagine how much hardware he'd buy for FA with even $100,000...

Aahaha, they're going to have an "app"? And Apple does *not* block porn (anymore), provided you are an adult and you opt-in. Or something. And wth does "waiting on proper API support" mean i.r.t WP7? And is the only reason they care about that platform is because Dragoneer (at one point) had a WP7 phone? Shit, dudes, it's Microsoft. They make it a priority to make it easy for drooling idiots from Tajikistan to be able to program for their platform.

Those idiots could never code in Objective C - they can't even do anything right in PHP so how would you expect to understand things like messaging and memory management? They'd probably get rejected for having code that crashes the phone and then blame it on Apple for not allowing porn.

And, "waiting on proper API support" = too stupid to even code in Java, requires effort - take your pick. I could imagine the horror of them trying to design a UI in Java or straight C....

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #75 on: February 15, 2011, 03:50:49 am »
And, "waiting on proper API support" = too stupid to even code in Java, requires effort - take your pick. I could imagine the horror of them trying to design a UI in Java or straight C....

To be fair, any of the UI toolkits available for Java or C are absolutely abysmal and practically useless.  How people write good software with them is beyond me.
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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #76 on: February 15, 2011, 07:44:33 am »
By the time FA has API support, the internet will be beamed directly into our heads.

I took it to mean some API was missing in the WP7 SDK that they needed. Of course, that would imply they'd actually investigated doing this.

I've never bothered with WP7, but I *have* done .NET, and again, Microsoft makes it a priority...to make their programming interfaces similar across platforms, so the dumbshits that have spent their lives writing corporate DB apps in VB6 can easily get locked into whatever else Microsoft wants them to get locked into. Back in the bad old days before .NET Windows Mobile had a horrible Win32-like C++ API, that was really nothing like Win32 but it *looked* like it, so that these idiots wouldn't get scared of having to learn new things.

I had the idea of an FA app figured as a gimmick more than anything else. In other words, they'd want to do something like this:

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main.Add(w);
main.ShowAll();
Application.Run();
}

And say "HURR, FUR AFFINITY, NOW AVAILABLE AT THE APPLE APP STORE HURPA DERP."

Anyway, how you could not achieve the above on *any* reasonably modern platform, mobile or not, is beyond me. But yeah, if they're looking to have some kind of API on the server side itself, I'll be selling deicing fluid to Satan before that happens....
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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #77 on: February 15, 2011, 09:50:00 am »
Well, considering a pretty good bulk of iDevice/android apps are really just pretty wrappers/parsers to the webkit browser, that's pretty spot on.

Of course, FA would need something parse-able first; as Conan and Freehaven noted, they'd just be better off with a 'mobile version' which of course would require the site to work normally in the first place.

We could be huge fags here and install a 'mobile device' theme for the forums software (I'm sure there's at least a few)...but really, this place renders on a smartphone browser pretty well already so there's no point.  Aside from possibly rubbing their noses in it. :3

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #78 on: February 15, 2011, 10:57:22 am »
I wonder what this "significant" database update will be on Saturday night..

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Re: Admins speak out on TT issue, gets threatened by Dragoneer
« Reply #79 on: February 15, 2011, 11:25:31 am »
I wonder what this "significant" database update will be on Saturday night..

My guess is that they're thrashing their schema around some, most likely renaming tables to protect against the source code leak. Hopefully yak doesn't "drop table comments" on the prod box again.
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