Author Topic: Jessica Elwood and It's identity (Read 7820 times)

Heimdal · « **on:** July 09, 2010, 01:07:38 am »

I'm sure we all know of Jessica Elwood. Smut furry artist, ~~and attractive woman~~.

I've had it on my DA watch list for some time, and I chanced upon some drama unfolding in the past day or so. At least half a year ago, JE had done some nude photography of "herself", and even started a separate new DA account for the "real life" modeling photos...

This ED article on her details the entire mishap better than I could: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Jessica_elwood
I always take ED articles with a grain of salt, but it's pretty accurate by all I've read. (Their proof for her actually being a man isn't so solid though, but it's still definitely a possibility.)

So she stole the photos from a model and claimed them as her own self. In her confession journal (http://jessicaelwood.deviantart.com/journal/33408592/#comments) JE claimed to know the model, but even that is a lie. JE bullshitted all her fans for a long-ass time. It was a surprise. Well, no, I guess it wasn't. A furry bullshitting other furries? That never happens!

But it doesn't matter much because all her fans immediately forgave her and white knighted against all the people who express mistrust. There is no doubt it will happen again, because furries don't believe in social consequences.

sharki · « **Reply #1 on:** July 09, 2010, 11:13:10 am »

Until I meet it in person and see a DNA sample, I'm convinced it's a dude.

LordNagetiere · « **Reply #2 on:** July 09, 2010, 04:49:21 pm »

I'm hoping JE is a dude then, because frankly any woman nutty enough to find a model's images just to post up must have some real body issues, and I'm not just talking pudgy. Pudgy chicks are empowered anymore to post their asses online. I mean anorexia, scarring, something bad.

Gunther · « **Reply #3 on:** July 19, 2010, 08:00:20 am »

You know, from early on there was an artist called Arturo Juarez that basically had the exact same drawing style, albeit with cruder quality, so when I started seeing some improvements (and by improvement, I mean less grainy and shinier... ironically, there really isn't THAT much difference in the quality of the pictures. The account isn't there on VCL anymore (I assume its an art purge combined with trying to recreate themselves in the fandom). I had a suspicion that Arturo and Jessica may just as well be one and the same.

Oh and for those who care, I still have some original Arturo pics on my computer. There's no date or signature on them, so it's hard for me to guess when they were drawn. I did, however, download all of them from 2002 and 2003 (when I first started downloading furry pics off the internet), so I'd have to say that He/she didn't quite make as revolutionary a leap in style and quality as they'd like to think.

sharki · « **Reply #4 on:** July 19, 2010, 09:36:46 pm »

Quote from: Gunther on July 19, 2010, 08:00:20 am

You know, from early on there was an artist called Arturo Juarez that basically had the exact same drawing style, albeit with cruder quality, so when I started seeing some improvements (and by improvement, I mean less grainy and shinier... ironically, there really isn't THAT much difference in the quality of the pictures. The account isn't there on VCL anymore (I assume its an art purge combined with trying to recreate themselves in the fandom).

Oh and for those who care, I still have some original Arturo pics on my computer. There's no date or signature on them, so it's hard for me to guess when they were drawn. I did, however, download all of them from 2002 and 2003 (when I first started downloading furry pics off the internet), so I'd have to say that He/she didn't quite make as revolutionary a leap in style and quality as they'd like to think.

That name is really familiar. I might have seen it before. Could you post some that art?

genericfurry · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2010, 04:28:19 pm »

Just simple logic would say that JE is some creepy lonely dude. I have to give it to him for using the whole 'im actually some attractive teen camwhore on the internats lol tee hee rofl fart', because furries are gullable and will believe it to the grave. So yeah, GOOD CAPITALIST. But this cliche has been played out so much in the fandom.

The sad part about it, I guess; is that furries as a whole are so clueless as to how a real girl thinks and talks that they will always fall for this kind of tripe..

Heimdal · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2010, 05:55:56 pm »

Quote from: genericfurry on July 20, 2010, 04:28:19 pm

Just simple logic would say that JE is some creepy lonely dude. I have to give it to him for using the whole 'im actually some attractive teen camwhore on the internats lol tee hee rofl fart', because furries are gullable and will believe it to the grave. So yeah, GOOD CAPITALIST. But this cliche has been played out so much in the fandom.

The sad part about it, I guess; is that furries as a whole are so clueless as to how a real girl thinks and talks that they will always fall for this kind of tripe..

This is true, but I have to say that this stuff never happens the way this has. Furries who've done things in similar proportions tend to sabotage themselves quickly, and have too much trouble keeping their faces out of drama storms (their own and others.) JE was kinda under the radar and detached from drama for.. a bunch of years? Good capitalist indeed, but it also raises how legitimate JE's claims would have seemed.

I had JE on my DA watch list, and would occasionally catch what she's up to. No, she didn't seem to think a whole lot like any real girls I know.. but then furry girls are nothing like real girls, so I ignored it.

Still, nobody really knows anything for sure yet. This guy covers his tracks pretty good.

Gunther · « **Reply #7 on:** July 23, 2010, 11:05:43 am »

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That name is really familiar. I might have seen it before. Could you post some that art?

I'll be glad to, but I have no place to publicly upload the pictures for any prolonged period of time so you can see them. I have a photobucket accounting, but I'm not going to post R-rated furry pics on there... at least, those not drawn by me.

I can, however, send them by email if you're interested.

sharki · « **Reply #8 on:** July 24, 2010, 10:31:11 am »

Quote from: Gunther on July 23, 2010, 11:05:43 am

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That name is really familiar. I might have seen it before. Could you post some that art?

I'll be glad to, but I have no place to publicly upload the pictures for any prolonged period of time so you can see them. I have a photobucket accounting, but I'm not going to post R-rated furry pics on there... at least, those not drawn by me.

I can, however, send them by email if you're interested.

Thanks for the email. Yeah, these are definitely the same person.

This one is an Elwood

This one is from Arturo Juarez

Not only are the poses almost identical,but look at the curves, the lighting, pay special attention to the feet. Plus there are similar motifs in some of the other art i.e., swords, guns, Asian influences. I'm all but convinced the same hand draw both of these.

ProvincialTwit · « **Reply #9 on:** July 24, 2010, 11:00:58 am »

Looks more like a tracing job to me; the person who did the latter image doesn't appear to be quite as well-versed in image editing and finishing.

Also fuck you for posting furry smut in here. Link that shit and mark it NSFW.

sharki · « **Reply #10 on:** July 24, 2010, 11:23:23 am »

The rules weren't clear, but I will in the future.

sharki · « **Reply #11 on:** July 24, 2010, 11:30:56 am »

In addition. It could be a tracing job, but Gunther sent me a number of images and they're all in this same style. Very curvy figures, very smooth color, very similar motifs. Either Elwood is blatantly ripping this guy off, or they're the same person. And since Arturo has disappeared from the Internets and Elwood has a long history of fake identity bullshit, I'm thinking they're the same person.

But this is by no means conclusive. The saga continues.

Gunther · « **Reply #12 on:** July 27, 2010, 11:43:37 am »

Hey guys. For those who wanted a gallery of Arturo's work, I found one on E621.net

http://e621.net/post?tags=Arturo_juarez&commit=Search

Enjoy.

Sechs · « **Reply #13 on:** July 27, 2010, 04:16:38 pm »

Quote from: sharki on July 24, 2010, 10:31:11 am

Not only are the poses almost identical,but look at the curves, the lighting, pay special attention to the feet. Plus there are similar motifs in some of the other art i.e., swords, guns, Asian influences. I'm all but convinced the same hand draw both of these.

You must be ridiculously easy to convince, then.

FFS, they don't look anything alike. The poses aren't identical (even taking into account the idiocy of general pose as comparison), the curves are different, the lighting's different, the feet are different. And "motifs"? Seriously?

All of the stuff you could try and build a case on, all the possible similarities, and you decide to grab an apple and a pear and run around the room screaming "They're the same! THE SAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!"

Perhaps for your next trick you can try and prove that Angelina Joli and Jeri Ryan are the same person, seeing as they're both actresses who get a lot of attention on their boobs.

sharki · « **Reply #14 on:** July 27, 2010, 06:35:13 pm »

If you really wanted to trip up my theory you'd have pointed out that the eyes are totally different. Arturo's characters have a normal eyes, Elwood's are very stylized.

One picture doesn't make the case, but look at the link Gunther provided. Even the backgrounds are similar! Admittedly, there are differences. Elwood's work has better color and finer anatomy, but that only suggests Arturo took an art class and learned to use Photoshop before undergoing his on-line sex change. Either these two people learned to draw using the exact same methods (which isn't out of the realm of possibility), or they are the same person with better skill, now using a different name.

And fuck Angelina Jolie. She looks way too much like her dad for my taste.

Sechs · « **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2010, 07:09:57 pm »

You sound more like one of those people who tries to argue that there is TOTALLY a face on Mars, and refuse to listen to any and all explanations of how the human brain will try to make a face out of anything with three hole shapes in vaguely the right places. Someone told you that Arturo and Elwood are the same person, so you're forcing yourself to see the tiniest, vaguest similarities as being The Most Obvious Thing Ever.

Again, there is plenty of suspicious/strange/contradictory stuff you could be looking at in all this. You've instead headed out to the desert to go running after untamed waterfowl.

sharki · « **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2010, 08:41:25 pm »

I don't think there are just vague similarities. From what I see the art has a lot in common, on multiple levels.

I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

Gunther · « **Reply #17 on:** July 27, 2010, 10:22:29 pm »

Look, the very instant I saw 'Jessica Elwood' and what art work she had, I immediately thought of Arturo. The fact that the color is better is not proof of a different artist, but simply that the whoever it is got better at what they're doing in certain aspects (I still don't think the art is worth a sack of potatoes, but there have been improvements).

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FFS, they don't look anything alike. The poses aren't identical (even taking into account the idiocy of general pose as comparison), the curves are different, the lighting's different, the feet are different. And "motifs"? Seriously?

They don't have to be identical, but they're extremely similar. The lighting, minor difference on the feet are just evidence that the artist improved a little (I mean for how long has Jessica/Arturo been drawing? At least 10+ years at this point. Even a casual doodler would develop some kind of understanding of art at this point).

I still say that the work is done by the same person with only small improvements to the overall style.

ProvincialTwit · « **Reply #18 on:** July 28, 2010, 09:01:18 am »

This thread is pretty fucking stupid and I'm not entirely sure why we let it get this far.

Oh boy so some obscure furry artist may have changed their INTERNET NAME. And, oh gasp, it might be a dude pretending to be a chick. Come the fuck on, people, north of 85% of furries are manchildren pretending to be female on the Internet. This thread is pointless. It doesn't even have the comedy potential of the EWS/TDK thing.

Hey, here are some more EXCITING REVELATIONS: Most of the women involved in the furry fetish subculture are fat and unattractive! Michelle Light has drawn and sold the exact same picture a hundred thousand times! Sam Conway is a douche with an ego the size of Europe! Pedophiles and Zoophiles are pretty much the same thing and both run rampant under the guise of 'furry'! White people are like, 'neh-eh-eh-eh-eh' and black people are like 'doot-doo-doo-doot'!

Christ, no wonder CYD went to shit if this was the sort of thing getting posted there.

Sharki and Gunther if you must insist on continuing to post in this thread, I want to see in-depth professional artistic analysis of the works of the two artists you claim to be the same. Also for fuck's sake Sharki, unlink those goddamned photos and put them behind url tags before I do it for you and turn all your posts into haikus about how much you like rock hard cocks slapping your tender mouth.

sharki · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2010, 09:45:52 am »

I'd change it if I could find the Edit button.