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The X Man Cometh
« on: March 26, 2010, 06:56:16 pm »
In a desperate bid to stay relevant in his own mind, perennial favorite loon Karl "Xydexx" Jorgensen has turned to friendly fire in a series of recently uncovered (and inexplicable) attacks on furious wiki editor GreenReaper.

It starts with a series of "anonymous" comments over at Furtean Times; GreenReaper, not being an idiot, manages to deduce the poster's identity pretty quickly.  But, of course, this is Xydexx, who just can't stop there!  The flurry of furry fuckery continues on one of X's thousand-and-one blog/journal/mental-masturbation sites, wherein our heroic squeakypony again decries Reaper's handling of Flayrah (which apparently did not live up to X's oh-so-high expectations?), as well as a few pot shots at the Wikifur project questioning its veracity as well as GR's objectivity.  X even goes so far as to accuse GR of "palling around with the CYD crowd," which as any Viv member can tell you is a pretty ridiculous thing to get one's panties in a bunch about these days.

However, in typical Xydexx fashion, he decided to try pulling all evidence of the aforementioned ranting, raving, and accusations, and began his usual campaign of denying anything and everything (see also the hysterical/historical 'call to arms' instructing furries to physically assault SA goons).

Oh! But lookie what Google held onto.

Reaper, if you perchance kept any copies of this hilarity, by all means post that shit.  And a question to more recent Vivisector members: Do you people even know who Xydexx is, or has his greatest fear of becoming completely obsolete and irrelevant finally come true?

We can only hope the latter, and that his realization of this leads to a gigantic (and hilarious) meltdown.
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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2010, 01:36:16 am »
oh shit HE'S BACK



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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2010, 12:14:46 pm »
XYDEXX RAPED AND MURDERED AN INFLATABLE REINDEER IN 1990(dot com)
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21 DEC 2009

Long time no update, apparently. I guess the latest spot of news is that the Inflatable Reindeer Puzzle Page, just in time for all your Inflatable Reindeer needs. Some people think I may have stolen a giant inflatable reindeer, but they really have no idea, do they?
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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2010, 06:56:10 pm »
I've only seen a recumbent bicycle once, maybe twice on the roads. Each time I pass very slowly, hand on the shifter incase I need to throw it in reverse for the sake of humanity.

Seriously though, going after Greenreaper for not being furry inclined enough with articles and websites? Some make believe micronation is missing its wannabe propaganda minister. Xy, move to Sealand. You can make stamps and totally feel like you're the special snowflake you know you are.
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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2010, 12:21:03 am »
I've done some additional digging on this (and other) topics and discovered a few more details on the whole sordid affair.

Apparently, when GR took over Flayrah (haha flayrah is still around? srsly.), he chose to go posting...certain truths about goings-on within the fandom fetish community which would have been much more at home in a place like Viv.  Shame on you, GR, you should've come to us first, especially for topics like the pointless ego-based bannings from AC and such. 

At any rate, Big X took it upon himself to defend the honor of his lord and master Doc Conway (since, of course, X has the super important job of...what exactly DOES he do for the con?  anything?) the only way he knew how - shoddy second-rate trolling of the comments at Flayrah, and half-assed attempts at vandalism on Wikifur.  Aah, good times, good times.


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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2010, 11:18:35 am »
Ha.

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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2010, 12:30:08 pm »
Ego searching for yourself and just came across this thread, or have you been lurking here just waiting for an opportunity to have a conversation about yourself?
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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2010, 10:33:28 pm »
Dude, he's like Beetlejuice, except you only have to say his name once.
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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2010, 11:00:50 pm »
Ha.
Hi there Xydexx. You know, one thing I remember fondly from your past retardery is that you name yourself "Karl Xydexx Jorgensen" all over the place, including this web site, your Facebook page, your Facebook badge thingy, and every single page of your blog...but if anybody else dares to put the word "Jorgensen" near the word "Karl", you go into a frothing writhing shouting rage about violations of privacy and how you'll call your lawyer (F. Lee Ballooney) and sue and whatnot. Is this still true?

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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2010, 07:24:00 am »
::) Mu. 

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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2010, 08:21:39 am »
D'aww, look, he's overwhelmed with the attention we're giving him (since CYD long since stopped giving any fuck whatsoever)

It's okay Exxy, speak your mind.  Don't worry, we have scripts that will automatically back up your every written word, just in case you 'accidentally' delete your posts in the future.

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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2010, 10:06:03 am »
who in hell is this monosyllabic dipshit

GET OUT
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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2010, 07:39:28 am »
You're all of you making far too much out of a totally innocent blog post.

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Here's an interesting question I stumbled across elsewhere on the internets:
If it is news then how can it contain opinion? At least Flayrah says it's "information" and not news.

This is a question I think more people ought to be asking about the former Furry news site Flayrah. (I say former because while Flayrah claims to be a Furry news site, these days it's little more than GreenReaper's personal blog with his own personal opinions and personal interpretations of furry events.)

Think about it. Were GreenReaper running Flayrah as a serious news site, he would be held accountable for what he says and have retractions based on new evidence, and would apologize to his readers for his errors instead of arguing about them. But, much like WikiFur (with its once-revered goal of creating a Furry encyclopedia has been sidetracked by documenting drama and fetishes GreenReaper finds interesting1) it seems like the once-great Flayrah isn't up to the task.

And let's not even get into Flayrah's partnership with the Improved Anthro/Burned Fur project Furryne.ws.

Or GreenReaper's palling around with the CYD crowd.

Or his envy of Encyclopedia Durrmatica.

When you add it all up, it doesn't exactly paint a flattering picture of what GreenReaper's priorities are, does it?

So I'll end this with a question of my own: Why hasn't anyone started a Furry encyclopedia/news site that focuses on actual information instead of drama?

1 In all honesty, had I known then that trying to correct misinformation on WikiFur would result in a six month battle, I wouldn't have bothered. But back then I was still under the delusion GreenReaper was actually interested in doing something positive for Furry Fandom. And that's a mistake I won't be making again.



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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2010, 09:05:40 am »
Ahahahahahahahaha.

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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2010, 06:19:30 am »
Meh.

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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2010, 08:53:46 am »
Haha, oh Karly...

Haha he is, as I type this, furiously attempting to figure out who runs this place.  Hell, we don't even know.  ED says it's Rodox, but my money's on Nagetiere. 

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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2010, 06:59:26 pm »
I love the utterly oblivious hypocrisy demonstrated by the fact that that just a few days ago, Xydexx posted this graphic in an entry on his live-journal:



http://xydexx.livejournal.com/733634.html

I note his FA journals:

http://www.furaffinity.net/journals/xydexx/

Are almost all about how awesome furry is and how right he is about furry. Funny to think he's still stuck as he was 8 or 9 years ago, petty back-biting vendettas and deleting-everything-dishonesty and all.

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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2010, 08:11:00 pm »
But...it...er...

That doesn't even make the slightest bit of sense.  I think he's finally gone soft in the head.  Must've been all that bitching and moaning with his boyfriend about the dildo seller at AC.

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Re: The X Man Cometh
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2010, 10:11:38 am »
This isn't a matter of public interest, so I don't see a good reason to violate Xydexx's copyright. He has a point about the paucity of good coverage, which I replied to as follows:

It's a problem. Want to fix it? The tools are in your own hands. Just start writing comprehensive, neutral articles and publish them daily, on Flayrah, WikiFur, or a site of your own choosing. Simple.

No?

Good content doesn't write itself. A high-quality information source requires ongoing effort by skilled contributors willing to put in a lot of time. Furry fandom has too few people dedicated to the task; those who are lack the time to do a truly professional job of it.

You put together AC's conbook. Imagine you had to handle a work that was a hundred times the size; to figure out what topics to cover and who to write each article; to review drafts and send them back for improvement. It would be a full-time job - one which would never end, as new topics appear and old ones require updates. Indeed, most traditional encyclopedias and newspapers spend a great deal on writers, researchers and editors.

Wiki technology allows more people to participate in the process, replacing the question of "who can write this" with "can we trust who wrote this?" Similarly, news sites make it easy for individual authors to submit material. But this has not removed the need for skilled experts to write good copy in the first place. It just removes barriers to them doing so.

To put this in perspective: the first draft of this article took four days to research and write. It was subjected to a picky review process (involving a skilled reviewer) that added several more days of work. This is what it takes for an experienced editor to cover a relatively well-known individual in the fandom, and only to a level considered "good."

Articles like this simply cannot be written for most furry topics because the sources don't exist. If you want a trusted Wikipedia-style encyclopedia of furry fandom, it will be far smaller than WikiFur. Maybe a few hundred articles.

Now, citations are not the only way to win a reader's trust. But for most topics, there are very few people who you could trust to write an article by themselves without relying on other sources - and it's unlikely you could get such people to spend a whole week on it.

News has the complication of being produced to a deadline, often on topics which the authors are not intimately familiar with. Even professional journalists cannot take a week over each story. They have a day or two before it is old news. Fans may only have a few hours to spend on all the topics of the past few days.

As for credibility . . . that's a function of expertise and trustworthiness. Real-world expertise is usually demonstrated by qualifications and experience; in fandom, the latter dominates. Ideally, the most experienced might write the articles, but they're usually busy doing the very things that make them experts.

Trustworthiness tends to come down to "were they right before, and is there any reason to think they're not right now?" We trust those who have delivered accurate information on a variety of topics; ideally on matters they are not directly involved with. You might trust an artist to cover the work of others, but not their own.

Flayrah (after 2006, at least) lacked credibility because most posters were directly involved with the subject of their posts. They were, by and large, not news articles but press releases.

The Flayrah of 2002 had a greater variety of stories. But don't look on the past with rose-tinted glasses. Most posts were announcements, brief quotes or links to other works with at most a paragraph or two of analysis. What little original content existed tended to come with a significant dollop of opinion. Arguably that and the comments were the most interesting part of the whole site.

Don't believe me? Check out "on this day" and "historical debates" for yourself.

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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2010, 11:09:45 am »
GR, really, you're giving the guy way too much credit here.

He's not interested in silly little things like 'facts' or 'reality'.  I'm certain he would've been perfectly happy to ignore Flayrah had it simply remained a mostly-quiet inoffensive source of, in your words, 'press releases' hastily written by those directly involved.  A lack of engaging content it was indeed, but what little content there was, was positive.  And that's all Karlie cares about, in the end.  You apparently dared to allow what could be considered a 'long-standing institution' of furrydom (Whois says Flayrah's been around since 2000?) to be tainted by content that wasn't yet-another-fluff-piece about a new con or cat videos on youtube.  Like Viv and CYD before us, you had the audacity, the gall, to post something that went against the shiny happy completely-fake facade that furries are all just great people and there's no drama or nepotism or infighting or incestuous love tetrahedrons infused throughout the 'fandom' like some sort of horrific tumor. 

THAT is what Karly has his panties in a bunch about.  To him, it'd be like if Yerf/SCFA still existed and suddenly allowed porn.  (Actually, come to think of it, didn't he throw a gigantic shitfit when SCFA changed its name and/or changed ownership?)  Or if Anthrocon allowed a guy to sell dildos in the dealers' room, thereby somehow validating that not everything is pure and innocent and 'family friendly'.

The truth is that there really isn't a whole hell of a lot of "news" in/around/from the whole furry thing - and even then, most of what's there is not exactly positive.  Ultimately, you own the domain, you pay for the hosting, and it's your choice entirely what sort of content goes there.  And, honestly, man.  No offense but I'm looking at the first page here and...c'mon.  Really?  All those words to defend...that?