Viv user loses his shit over Weasyl

[ProvincialTwit]

So our own dear Conan, aka AndyRichter (and sometimes HEPennypacker) on the #Viv IRC channel, has a problem.

Nov 06 22:30:19 <AndyRichter|2>   so am I correct in assuming weasyl is run by a group of shadowy individuals

He has a problem...with Weasyl.

Nov 06 22:33:35 <AndyRichter|2>   things just seem to happen while other directors are apparently out of the loop
Nov 06 22:34:29 <AndyRichter|2>   weasyl's management structure is a mess
Nov 06 22:34:43 <AndyRichter|2>   not the people but just the way it's organized
Nov 06 22:35:28 <AndyRichter|2>   there's a heap of people floatijg above the rest
Nov 06 22:35:47 <AndyRichter|2>   if I laid it out on paper it would just look like a cock

He has a lot of problems with Weasyl

Nov 06 22:40:37 <AndyRichter|2>   well
Nov 06 22:41:08 <AndyRichter|2>   there's no leadership because there's no leader
Nov 06 22:41:32 <AndyRichter|2>   the leaders are all on the same level due to ben's pr shit
Nov 06 22:42:40 <AndyRichter|2>   I mean essentially there's a board of directors with no president or ceo
Nov 06 22:42:55 <AndyRichter|2>   so they just sit there and ??
Nov 06 22:44:33 <AndyRichter|2>   there's directors who own the servers outright now, which is a horrible idea
Nov 06 22:45:27 <AndyRichter|2>   and I'm going to hazard a guess that just kind of happened with some nodding and shrugging
Nov 06 22:45:52 <AndyRichter|2>   because if they get pissed off we'd have jheryn v. arcturus 2

But what's his real/ problem with Weasyl?

Nov 06 22:46:48 <AndyRichter|2>   it's chepaer and more effective to just give me the site and i'll pay for it myself

Oh.  Or maybe it's this?

Nov 06 22:56:20 <AndyRichter|2>   from the outside the lights are on but nobody's home
Nov 06 22:57:02 <AndyRichter|2>   i wanted to get involved because I was tired of complaining about the rest of the art sites and wanted to actively help make a good one

Oh, well, he just wants to help, and he's not getting any feedback from the people in charge, is that it?

Nov 06 22:57:10 <Fiz>   example: instead of coming to me, or other staff, about your issues with castazel, you posted a bunch of shit on lulz (i know what your id is) about it and i think forum posts? like banging on pots and pans to get attention to the subject or something
Nov 06 22:57:29 <Fiz>   i mean you didnt even come to me when you wanted to be part of the site and instead you kept going through habnabit even though we're in the same chat, right here
Nov 06 22:57:59 <Fiz>   and everytime you didnt get a definite answer at the time when he asked -for you-, you went and moaned about the site somewhere (lulz or the forums)

Oh.  Surely that can't be all there is to it?

Nov 06 22:59:46 <AndyRichter|2>   when I finally did get into chat and I said what I wanted to do I got shrugs
Nov 06 23:00:37 <Fiz>   well i guess cry at habnabit then for not dropping what he was doing immediatly to get you cookies from the cookie jar

And then there was this which I'm dropping because fucking lol like it means anything

Nov 06 23:00:39 <AndyRichter|2>   in the same amount of time I got a job with an award winning creative services department

HOW'S THAT WORKIN' OUT FOR YOU BUDDY?

tl;dr: Conan is losing his shit in a slow plodding trainwreck on IRC and it's hilarious.

[ProvincialTwit]

BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE

Nov 07 00:14:04 <HEPennypacker>   ok
Nov 07 00:18:05 <HEPennypacker>   t fiz first off I figured it was probably better to get at least one person on staff supporting me instead of just showing up and asking myself.
Nov 07 00:19:27 <HEPennypacker>   secondly I don't understand why I was under any obligation to go to you or any other staff since I was not on staff to begin with.
Nov 07 00:21:57 <HEPennypacker>   thirdly my intentions were to help
Nov 07 00:22:00 <HEPennypacker>   weasyl
Nov 07 00:22:14 <HEPennypacker>   not "bring down FA" or whatever wacky motives people thought up
Nov 07 00:44:27 <HEPennypacker>   though at this point I've pretty much come to the conclusion that trying to do so is pointless and not really worth the effort

In Act 2 of our IRC drama, Fiz gets tired of this shit.

Nov 07 00:59:10 <Fiz>   you werent under obligation i jsut thought it would make sense to go to a staff member (since itd be fairly convenient since we are in the same channel) for concerns especially since you keep saying from whatever pov it looks like im in charge
Nov 07 01:01:56 <Fiz>   and whatever intentions it comes off kind of suspect when someones asking to help or be on staff then they turn around and borderline talk shit about the staff or do some furry drama fart bullshit
Nov 07 01:02:08 <Fiz>   like what happened with simba
Nov 07 01:02:40 <Fiz>   he definetely just wanted to assist in taking fa down because his butthole was raw and red
Nov 07 01:03:51 <Fiz>   its frustrating because as much fun as it is to giggle about fa's butthole also being raw and red
Nov 07 01:04:36 <Fiz>   pretty sure he was because you were going through the staff changes and saw casmer and started looking him up and then adventurecru road rage 2013 happened

*Note: Conan seriously has Issues w/r/t adventurecru.  Like, really big issues.  Moving on...at this point Fiz has since gone to bed but Conan's not done yet!

Nov 07 01:13:51 <HEPennypacker>   It's just kind of frustrating when you offer suggestions and advice and money to a place you want to help and they turn around and boot you without even saying why!!!
Nov 07 01:16:01 <HEPennypacker>   not even TRYING to end it respectfully. No one SAID anything. Maybe I wouldn't be saying these things if someone had just went "hey you know you're not really a developer so you shouldn't be here but thanks for everything so far we'll call you when we need you!"
Nov 07 01:16:53 <HEPennypacker>   Instead someone "got tired" of me not talking and arbitrarily decided to boot me and everyone just kept shrugging

CITATION NEEDED

Nov 07 09:04:02 <Kirune>   whats wrong with conan again
Nov 07 09:04:13 <fixod>   he is the most buttfrustrated
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Nov 07 14:33:59 <AndyRichter|2>   t Kirune tl;dr: Weasyl directors are a bunch of rude dickbutts who can't work with people.

lol.

[Pi]

This is the shit you miss by not being in IRC, ladies and gentlemen. The forums are getting livelier, sure, but the IRC is where the real action is at.

Cue Xydexx, raving about the monolithic antifurry conspiracy! And the postfurries, cackling with glee at the Vivisector in-fighting!

AND HURRY UP WITH THE STARBLADE AND JIM GROAT ALREADY GHLAHHGUHLHGLHGULGHGULAGHLUGALGUHULGHLALGUHALUGLAGULAHULGALUHGLUGHLAGULULGHLA

[habnabit]

I got namedropped! hi!

[Fiz]

I got namedropped! hi!

I'm sorry :(

[ColonThree]

Jesus Conan, get your shit together. This was like reading one of those "An artist wouldn't draw my fetish and now I have anal angst"  threads frequently seen on lulz. Or even comparable with the aforementioned Simba. Waaaa I wanted to help and they rejected me waaaa. It's fascinating that even the indirect mini-drama associated with Weasyl is comparable to FA. Same shit, different site.

I wasn't expecting it from Conan though. Make sure you don't become what you despise.

[Conan]

Jesus Conan, get your shit together. This was like reading one of those "An artist wouldn't draw my fetish and now I have anal angst"  threads frequently seen on lulz. Or even comparable with the aforementioned Simba. Waaaa I wanted to help and they rejected me waaaa. It's fascinating that even the indirect mini-drama associated with Weasyl is comparable to FA. Same shit, different site.

I wasn't expecting it from Conan though. Make sure you don't become what you despise.

If I had this to do over, I don't think I'd change very much. I stand by my claims about Weasyl and will back them up soon. I know I am not the only person that thinks these things, so it doesn't bother me if people decide to label this as "butthurt", though I do find it interesting that people can pull this kind of thing directed at FA and get away with it. HOW many times have people pulled the "Well people have offered to help but you've ignored them!" card i.r.t. FA? Too many to count!

There are two sides to every story, and this was the side of me getting frustrated that nobody at Weasyl has the professional courtesy to actually say that they had a problem, and instead hide behind an anonymous ban from IRC.

Foxid did a good job with the posts tho. Classic Viv. 5 Stars.

[ProvincialTwit]

PROTIP: The difference is nobody likes you go away Conan please reevaluate the priorities in your life.

[Pi]

There are two sides to every story, and this was the side of me getting frustrated that nobody at Weasyl has the professional courtesy to actually say that they had a problem, and instead hide behind an anonymous ban from IRC.

Reading these chat logs, I'd guess that maybe there was some consensus that you weren't being productive at all (maybe your actual motives were to dig up dirt), and so you were treated  with the same lack of courtesy that you were displaying.

Maybe I'm just making shit up, though.

[Fantastigasm]

Weasyl

[Pi]

Nobody, apparently, cares.