Author Topic: Upcoming UI changes (Read 7712 times)

Pi · « **Reply #20 on:** April 01, 2012, 09:38:02 pm »

fa.png, for the record.

pictures really are worth a thousand words, guys.

And today it looks like this:

"April Fools! We're really incompetent!"

loki · « **Reply #21 on:** April 02, 2012, 08:37:56 pm »

The thumbnails load very slowly even for me; I doubt they put much thought into what kind of load larger thumbnails is going to do their site... oh well, I'm sure they'll just beg for donations and buy some more hardware to throw at the problem once it gets really bad.

Conan · « **Reply #22 on:** April 02, 2012, 09:51:57 pm »

Quote from: loki on April 02, 2012, 08:37:56 pm

The thumbnails load very slowly even for me; I doubt they put much thought into what kind of load larger thumbnails is going to do their site... oh well, I'm sure they'll just beg for donations and buy some more hardware to throw at the problem once it gets really bad.

Someone pointed out thumbnails are in some cases about three times bigger (filesize wise) than they used to be. Sure enough, none of the thumbnails on my user page (using the old 100x100 resolution) are larger than 5kb, while some of the ones on the browse page are 15kb.

This is a site that has trouble when four people try to mass download art, and they decided that tripling thumbnail filesize for thousands of people at once was a great idea.

Pi · « **Reply #23 on:** April 03, 2012, 10:36:07 am »

Quote from: Personal communicaton

Also just to grump: "oh hey you changed the thumbnail size, gee thanks a lot, now the thumbnails that I went out of my way to make sure looked nice at the previous size, are going to be randomly upscaled and look shitty"

All-in-all, I don't think they thought their cunning "improvement" all the way through.

ISleepNow · « **Reply #24 on:** April 03, 2012, 08:54:03 pm »

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<yak[away]> anyone who is seriously leaving over a website's design change on april 1 is either a dumbass or a drama queen. in either case 90% of them will be back within two weeks even if they do leave.

If Yak ever does have to go out into the real world in furtherance of his professional career I hope he puts that quote at the top of his resume

Conan · « **Reply #25 on:** April 05, 2012, 09:03:58 pm »

So one of the changes made to thumbnails over the weekend came in the form of the URL for thumbnails changing dramatically. Previously, thumbnails contained the artist name and a file name. Both of those were removed, and it's believed this was Yak's latest attempt to block scrapers as the FA Conglomorator script used these to download images.

Except in the real world, that doesn't stop people. Early this afternoon the script was modified to just follow the link to the submission and use the download link on the submission page.

So instead of blocking scrapers, he actually made it worse for FA as now the script has the server make calls to the database to load a page that it skips right over.

EDIT: Something else to point out: This terrific "News items are Fender journals" idea proves to have had no thought put into it: As of right now, thanks to the comments the page takes somewhere like two seconds to generate, and then additional time for tables to render and download hundreds of avatars totaling over five megabytes in size alone.

More half-baked ideas from the FA administration? Say it ain't so!

Jim Demintia · « **Reply #26 on:** April 07, 2012, 06:51:38 pm »

Hey Yak. Yeah, I know you read us. You will not win this battle. Do you not remember the battle that AOL waged trying to lock third party clients out of AIM? AOL went as far as to make an addition to the OSCAR protocol that could randomly request a region of the executable to be checksummed. The client had to return the right checksum, or it'd be disconnected. The solution for Gaim (Pidgin)? They set up a simple PHP script on their Sourceforge site that would field requests from Gaim clients when they got this request from the AIM servers. It had a copy of the Windows AIM client on hand that it would checksum and return the value to clients. It turned out they'd only ever request one particular checksum, so it ended up being pointless.

The point here, however, is this. You will not win this battle. You are wasting your time and you are making FurAffinity worse for trying. You are not a programmer, and you aren't even a halfway decent administrator. You would do well to not touch FA if you don't have to. Every time you do, you make it worse. Every change you make has a half-dozen (at least) unintended side effects. If we're lucky, the worst of it will be additional load on the FA servers. I could bore you with a bunch of theoretical bullshit as to why what you are trying to do - stymie scrapers - will never work, but since you don't really strike me as the theory type - I'll make it real simple: stop it. The effort you will waste on this will be several orders of magnitude larger than that which will be expended by the script authors, and they will win. Every. Time.

Stop it. Stop chasing scrapers. It is a waste of effort and time for everyone, and it makes you look like an idiot.

Ketsuban · « **Reply #27 on:** April 07, 2012, 08:07:49 pm »

I suppose the irony would be lost on him that the whole reason scrapers used the thumbnail data was BECAUSE it was less taxing on the database than hitting the image page, forcing a database grab and yanking the image URL from that.

kernel.panic · « **Reply #28 on:** April 07, 2012, 11:38:44 pm »

I'm telling you guys. Web 2.0. It's the next big thing.

pmart · « **Reply #29 on:** April 26, 2012, 07:39:31 pm »

Here, have yet another "beta site"!

Just like the last "redesign", and the last working preview (was that Sigma?), nothing is different below the banner/control panel area.

Conan · « **Reply #30 on:** May 22, 2012, 04:00:57 pm »

It appears the large thumbnails have caused them to max out their 250Mbit bandwidth cap, requiring a bump up to 350Mbit.

And if you're wondering where the features promised nearly two months ago are: they're Working On It™. And they've also gone from saying "These are features the community has suggested" to "These are things that only happened because Sciggles suggested them". No, really:

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Further, the privacy settings came from at the bequest of and many suggestions by sciggles.

Ketsuban · « **Reply #31 on:** May 22, 2012, 09:55:45 pm »

Quote from: Conan on May 22, 2012, 04:00:57 pm

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Further, the privacy settings came from at the bequest of and many suggestions by sciggles.

Homework: draw a syntax tree for this sentence.

Conan · « **Reply #32 on:** May 23, 2012, 03:00:37 am »

Quote from: Ketsuban on May 22, 2012, 09:55:45 pm

Quote from: Conan on May 22, 2012, 04:00:57 pm
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Further, the privacy settings came from at the bequest of and many suggestions by sciggles.

Homework: draw a syntax tree for this sentence.

I think they've just hired the North Korean news agency to write their news.

"Further privacy settings for consumption by Greatful Citizens came at bequest of and many suggestion by Our Great and Dear Queen Sciggles"

RedFlowerJigglypuff · « **Reply #33 on:** May 23, 2012, 08:14:39 pm »

I like how they added into that fender journal, a 'thanks' to sciggles.

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Also, thanks to sciggles for her pushing for privacy settings/updates.

Whether or not she had anything to do with the new and exciting updates to come real soon™, I'm sure him giving her the credit for "pushing" these updates is an extremely forced attempt to get people to like her more.

If she really DID want this shit to happen, then Pichypoo can't say no, of course.

The whole post is kinda funny though.

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As you may have noticed, the site has been chugging a bit in prime time.

HOW ABOUT THAT SHIT!? When has it not?

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We're adding on an additional 100Mbit bandwidth, bringing our total up to 350Mbit.

You know, for those of you who can't do basic math.

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In layman's terms: epic huge speed!

And to dumb it down even further for you, lets throw in a tasteless use of the word 'epic.'

Fate · « **Reply #34 on:** May 24, 2012, 12:29:44 pm »

Hi, Google+ bar. It's weird to see you on top of FurAffinity.

lamerfox · « **Reply #35 on:** May 24, 2012, 12:40:28 pm »

Wow, the new UI update makes the "other messages" page really fucking hard to read if you use the light theme.

Whoever thought up this rancid UI update should have his hands cut off.

Three Cheese Pepperoni · « **Reply #36 on:** May 24, 2012, 12:40:53 pm »

Ah, jeez, they actually went live with that hideous layout.

It looks like they didn't change much from the preview if anything at all regarding its design. I guess any constructive criticism--as usual--went through one ear and out the other. That and it was probably drowned out by the yesmen saying how much it was absolutely perfect.

lamerfox · « **Reply #37 on:** May 24, 2012, 12:57:25 pm »

Also, they gave a big middle finger to those using Internet Explorer.

Conan · « **Reply #38 on:** May 24, 2012, 01:42:45 pm »

So when you hide your favorites, even you can't see them.

GREAT FUCKING JOB YAK.

Quote from: Three Cheese Pepperoni on May 24, 2012, 12:40:53 pm

Ah, jeez, they actually went live with that hideous layout.

It looks like they didn't change much from the preview if anything at all regarding its design. I guess any constructive criticism--as usual--went through one ear and out the other. That and it was probably drowned out by the yesmen saying how much it was absolutely perfect.

See this is what's wrong with FA. There's a very large, very vocal group of ass kissers who will say how great and wonderful any change is. There are already people saying the navbar is the "BEST UPDATE EVARRRRRRRRRRR!".

Meanwhile, actual designers have their constructive criticism and advice ignored, because, well, everyone likes it! see! Look how many people are saying "YES PLEASE PISS ON MY FACE MORE PLEASE AND THANK YOU!!!".

For the record, I like the navbar in general but it's been poorly executed here. It needs something.

RedFlowerJigglypuff · « **Reply #39 on:** May 24, 2012, 05:43:11 pm »

Well, after making fun or it for looking EXACTLY like a google+ bar. Dragoneer goes has all of the + signs changed to ▼ signs.

But in the process, of course there had to be a period of Error 500s on the messages section of the bar.

Regarding the plus signs he said:

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It's just to let people know they're expandable dropdowns. They'll be changed with arrows.

Why couldn't that just be done in the first place?

I don't get it.