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ToS/AUP loophole allows for recordings of shitting/pissing
« on: July 07, 2011, 03:52:40 pm »
http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/103013-Huge-loophole-in-the-AUP

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Re: ToS/AUP loophole allows for recordings of shitting/pissing
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 03:59:55 pm »
I'd call troll if it were on anything other than a furry site.
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Re: ToS/AUP loophole allows for recordings of shitting/pissing
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2011, 07:48:13 am »
Must be a pain setting up the laptop every time he goes to the toilet.

Does FA even have a mature/adult category for audio? I can't imagine they would've ever thought it would be needed.
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Re: ToS/AUP loophole allows for recordings of shitting/pissing
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 08:36:19 am »
I don't know how to feel about all the claims in that thread about Furaffinity being solely an art site. I thought it stopped being that long time ago! Furaffinity is pretty much just a bonafide community at this point with its own little cultures, so much so that one can tell a Furaffinity person apart from a Furtopia person, I would think.

Also FAF is a bunch of prudes. Scat is so lite on the scale of "worrisome fetishes", it shouldn't register above the level of "oh gross".

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Re: ToS/AUP loophole allows for recordings of shitting/pissing
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2011, 02:06:22 pm »
Also FAF is a bunch of prudes. Scat is so lite on the scale of "worrisome fetishes", it shouldn't register above the level of "oh gross".

In comparison to someone who defecates, records it, and uploads it to the internet, FAF is a bunch of prudes. In comparison to the bulk of society, FAF is still a bunch of weirdo deviants. I think this is an important distinction to make, for context.

It's good to see FA show it has some standards. Although it's barely anything, because allowing scat just because 'there's worse fetishes' would be pretty fucking heinous reasoning.
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Re: ToS/AUP loophole allows for recordings of shitting/pissing
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2011, 03:11:52 pm »
"I'm kinky, everyone else is a pervert"

FA is a fetish porn site. And no, I don't mean the "furry fetish" thing. FA categorizes it's submissions by fetish, ferchrissakes. I really think that once you decide you're going to allow fetishes, you really have no business making taste judgements beyond "that's illegal". Furries have a real glass-house problem when it comes to being the arbiter of what is a quality sexual fetish. Now whether or not that leads to some less desirable types finding a home here is another issue, but you get the idea.

I think FAF is reacting the way they are because they are a bunch of socially-inept dorks with sexual issues. The only people who can be arsed to care about this sort of stuff on any serious level are people who are acting out of insecurity. This is a "loophole" only in the sense that it wasn't specifically banned. But where is the line? There is no line. You literally have to think of everything. Either that or you need some administrators with broad powers of discretion and excellent judgement.

Is it gross? Yes. It's disgusting. Now what? Make a comment about how everything is a fetish on the Internet, rule 34 hurr hurr, and move on. Of course, that assumes you have something else to do other than hang out on FAF.
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Re: ToS/AUP loophole allows for recordings of shitting/pissing
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2011, 03:54:39 pm »
Nevermind that the TOS/AUP are unenforceable crap scrawled up by Dragoneer, and they don't really mean anything besides "here is a stick to beat users with when we want".
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Re: ToS/AUP loophole allows for recordings of shitting/pissing
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2011, 07:04:20 am »
Nevermind that the TOS/AUP are unenforceable crap scrawled up by Dragoneer, and they don't really mean anything besides "here is a stick to beat users with when we want".

Suppose it would be too much to hire a lawyer to draft up an actually enforceable TOS instead of blowing money on more useless hardware.

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Re: ToS/AUP loophole allows for recordings of shitting/pissing
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2011, 08:33:51 am »
Suppose it would be too much to hire a lawyer to draft up an actually enforceable TOS instead of blowing money on more useless hardware.

Just a question: why would they need a lawyer to do that? Frankly, unless someone breaking the TOS means actual legal liability for FA, lawyers shouldn't be getting anywhere near this.

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Re: ToS/AUP loophole allows for recordings of shitting/pissing
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2011, 02:31:21 pm »
Suppose it would be too much to hire a lawyer to draft up an actually enforceable TOS instead of blowing money on more useless hardware.

Just a question: why would they need a lawyer to do that? Frankly, unless someone breaking the TOS means actual legal liability for FA, lawyers shouldn't be getting anywhere near this.

Assuming the idea is to create a TOS that is not just some unenforceable crap that's scrawled out by Dragoneer, is not some broadly worded stick that lets power-hungry admins run around and ban whom they please, and doesn't leave any unpleasant loopholes such as this, hiring someone with experience writing contracts and licenses would probably be best.

Also, I may be wrong here, but if someone uploaded child pornography to FA and it wasn't prohibited by their TOS, would they not face potential legal liability?

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Re: ToS/AUP loophole allows for recordings of shitting/pissing
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2011, 06:24:21 pm »
Thankfully for the entirety of the Internet, no.  The abridged version is that site owners are not liable for the content posted by their users.  Otherwise any website allowing the posting of comments or content, either by registered users or anonymously, would pretty much cease to exist.

Now, if someone did post CP over on FA, and Piche, et al. tried to cover up the identity of the person(s) involved, then they'd be looking at some serious legal troubles.