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The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« on: February 18, 2011, 10:44:16 pm »
We have a pretty good record of people not dredging up long-dead threads out of the ether, and I'd like to keep it that way.  There's also a vast history of furries doing stupid (and entertaining) things beyond our meager archives, that perhaps some of you may be wondering about and/or have new information on.

So in an effort to continue discouraging thread necromancy, and encourage conversation that doesn't involve FA, here is a big fat catch-all thread for asking about or sharing new content concerning old stories.

I'll start:  Whatever happened with that guy who ran Confurence into the ground a few years back?  I remember there having been some gigantic drama surrounding the final con, something about him inviting in camera crews from some TV show or another in exchange for a wad of cash.  Did anyone actually even show up to it?  Did that guy try starting a new one?

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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2011, 09:42:26 am »
That would be Darrel Exline.  Long and short of it is, best of intentions, horrible execution.  He made a lot of bad decisions that he owned up to, and the whole thing left him understandably bitter. I wasn't at the last Conference, which had about 470 people.  Some camera crews asked if they could come, and Darrel ok'ed two of them, but not for cash.  He talks about it in this Flayrah post.

Just how much blame or slack he gets pretty much depends on the person trying to accuse or defend him. He was once on the side of Burned Fur - big mistake.  By the time he saw the crazy in the group and distanced himself, it was too late.  A couple of people accused CF of being a BF convention, and then other BF people (friends of his) started saying, without his blessing, "Yeah! So don't come to our convention!"  Darrel wanted to con to be for everyone, lifestylers and non-lifestylers alike, just without the out-of-control shit from Merlino's chairmanship.  At the same time though, I don't think he went out of his way to get his BF buddies to shut up.  Or something like that.  I'm really not in the mood to search through the old Usenet flamewars.  It's one of the topics the X-man has an interest in selectively editing on Wikifur.

Merlino's last year as con chair involved moving the convention to San Diego over Easter weekend. People weren't too inclined to go at that time of year, or take the extra time it took to travel that far.  So the majority of them who were all in the SF Bay and Silicon-Valley area started thinking about having their own convention - Further Confusion.  When?  In CF's original timeslot, mid-to-late January.  So Exline inherited this clusterfuck of politics, some of which he'd brought onto himself, some which had been rather nastily hurled at him.  Throw in the dot-com bubble bursting and people having less money to spend, and then how Darrel signed bad hotel contracts... yeah, it didn't work out well.  He also made some very heated, un-chairman-like posts to Usenet which didn't make him look like he had the greatest sense of diplomacy.  In the end though, he admitted his mistakes.  (This archive link with the embedded flash document is pretty damn humble by furry standards.)  But then, after all that, he let the media attend the convention - ...I mean, wtf was he thinking?

Still, despite all the shit said about him, he was trying to do something positive for everyone to enjoy, and spent tens of thousands of dollars trying to make it work. When it didn't work, half of it was it own fault, and the other half was a combination of real-life bad luck and other people in the fandom making it all worse.  I bumped into him at a science-fiction convention in 2003, and he seemed to be a nice guy - had his daughter with him.  Where is he now?  Probably hanging out with the Californian science-fiction crowd, old furry friends, maybe gaming or comics people - dropping out of the limelight and being a run-of-the-mill science-fiction fan with a bit of furry still in there, that's my guess. Knows enough to not try running a convention again, though conceivably he might still work as a volunteer on one.

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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 12:26:50 am »
I don't want to think I killed the potential momentum of this subject with my reply, so... um... er... oh!  What happened to Sibe?  Is he still on parole for stuff?  Didn't Rabbit Valley or someone sue him for lost sales?  Did they manage to get any money out of him?

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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 11:35:10 am »
I wouldn't say you killed potential momentum; I thought that was a really good infodump there.

As far as Sibe, I believe before the insufferable faggot who made the original Caledon Dalimar thread whined at me to take it down, he mentioned Cal knows and/or hangs out with Sibe.  I seem to recall the latter having some kind of minor dogfucking connotatiosn as well...

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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 12:11:45 pm »
I seem to recall the latter having some kind of minor dogfucking connotatiosn as well...

There's a certain denizen of this particular message board who might be able to confirm this suspicion.
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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 10:40:24 pm »
Sibe's been mostly invisible for the past few years, and I never really kept tabs on him. It was fairly well-known that he was a dogfucker (he admitted it himself from time to time it looks like), but it was always assumed that there wasn't enough solid evidence to warrant yet another trip to the slammer for him.

It's not known for certain if any evidence was actually available; Sibe was known for making shit up on the spot to set people off and I kind of assumed this was one of those times. You have to remember that this was all pre-Java/Shnakes/WILDWULF; nobody thought that any furry dogfucker would ever drop enough evidence in plain sight to allow for a credible report to the cops, much less a successful criminal prosecution.

As for the Rabbit Valley case, it was a total farce; Sibe had absolutely no assets to seize and no money whatsoever. Rabbit Valley wound up eating every single penny of it's legal costs.
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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2011, 10:56:17 pm »
Also, I have a few formal "whatever happened to" questions of my own. Here's one:

What was the full story with Skylos? Now that Portal Of Evil is gone, the existing info on him is in danger of being lost.

Skylos was a dumbshit furry and major dogfucker hailing from the days of the dot-com boom, when, legend has it, he got a job at Cisco. He would lose this job when co-workers found pictures of him molesting his dogs stored on workstation servers belonging to the hardware design group. Police and the Humane Society were notified, but there was of course no arrest. He denied everything on his (now vastly different) website.

This would become a pattern that would be repeated an astonishing number of times, though not quite to the massive (or zoophilic) extent of the first - land job, do something massively retarded, get fired, whinge it wasn't his fault, repeat. PoE got quite a kick out of watching this.

He was also said to have been associated with what was described as a local clique of furries who trade RL child pornography. This is a claim that really should have been elaborated on and investigated, given that Frank Gembeck lived not too far away from him at the time, and several people are now saying that Gembeck's pedophilic pursuits were known many years before the arrest finally happened.

Unfortunately, the person who spilled all this, PoE's Starless and Bible Black (formerly known as Stukafox, you may have heard of him), seems to have vanished from the internet. Needless to say, I would love to get in touch with him.
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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2011, 11:04:56 pm »
And here's another. It was mentioned in the FURILEAKS thread, but it's proper place is here:

A long fucking time ago, back in the late 90s, FurryMUCK was rooted. The MASTER LOG was stolen, but oddly enough not released publically. Everything that was happening everywhere in the game during a given period, be it admin commands or typefucking, got out. I don't have specifics or even a rough date for this, and it could be one of those things that was once a highly-guarded secret among MUCK showrunners, relayed to me only because nobody cares anymore.

The incident caused several neighboring MUCKs to change and improve their logging practices (some more than others).
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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2011, 11:15:17 pm »
Another MUCK incident. This is also from the GAY NINETIES. Again, the details are mostly lost, and confined to vague Portal Of Evil posts that are now gone.

Supposedly several MUCK owners got visits from the FBI. The guess is that the FBI had managed to acquire the hard drive or ISP logs of someone under investigation in a pedophile case and were looking for logs or other information pertaining to this individual on every MUCK he had visited. How many MUCKs got called, and exactly who or what the feds were looking for is unclear.

It was speculated that they were looking for someone involved with the Treehouse Of The Secret Moon, an ageplay area that was once run by BenRaccoon and Crassus. Of course, it was probably something different, but given what we now know about Crassus...
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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2011, 08:09:45 pm »
Also, I have a few formal "whatever happened to" questions of my own. Here's one:

What was the full story with Skylos? Now that Portal Of Evil is gone, the existing info on him is in danger of being lost.

Skylos was a turbo-furfag and major dogfucker hailing from the days of the dot-com boom, when, legend has it, he got a job at Cisco. He would lose this job when co-workers found pictures of him molesting his dogs stored on workstation servers belonging to the hardware design group. Police and the Humane Society were notified, but there was of course no arrest. He denied everything on his (now vastly different) website.

This would become a pattern that would be repeated an astonishing number of times, though not quite to the massive (or zoophilic) extent of the first - land job, do something massively retarded, get fired, whinge it wasn't his fault, repeat. PoE got quite a kick out of watching this.

He was also said to have been associated with what was described as a local clique of furries who trade RL child pornography. This is a claim that really should have been elaborated on and investigated, given that Frank Gembeck lived not too far away from him at the time, and several people are now saying that Gembeck's pedophilic pursuits were known many years before the arrest finally happened.

Unfortunately, the person who spilled all this, PoE's Starless and Bible Black (formerly known as Stukafox, you may have heard of him), seems to have vanished from the internet. Needless to say, I would love to get in touch with him.

There was a guy on PoE whose username was fluffy who actually worked with Skylos for awhile, but I'd have no idea how to get a hold of him, and from what I recall most of his stories weren't much more than relating that Skylos apparently wasn't fond of showering before he came to work.
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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2011, 09:15:26 pm »
There was a guy on PoE whose username was fluffy who actually worked with Skylos for awhile, but I'd have no idea how to get a hold of him, and from what I recall most of his stories weren't much more than relating that Skylos apparently wasn't fond of showering before he came to work.

Fluffy (and I'm pretty sure this is the same Fluffy by their lj watchlist) is active on twitter (http://twitter.com/fluffy) if you want to contact them there.
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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2011, 10:17:31 pm »
There was a guy on PoE whose username was fluffy who actually worked with Skylos for awhile, but I'd have no idea how to get a hold of him, and from what I recall most of his stories weren't much more than relating that Skylos apparently wasn't fond of showering before he came to work.

Fluffy (and I'm pretty sure this is the same Fluffy by their lj watchlist) is active on twitter (http://twitter.com/fluffy) if you want to contact them there.

Yep, that is the same guy.  Thanks for the heads-up.
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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2011, 03:18:02 am »
I've also been wondering whatever happened to DC Simpson, which was the subject of an article here in Vivisector. After the phenomenal failure of his comic "Raine Dog" and winning that online cartoonist contest (and announcing the strip would appear 0in a few weeks), it seems he fell out of the limelight in a rather embarassing way.

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Re: The 'whatever happened to...' thread
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2011, 04:49:43 am »
I've also been wondering whatever happened to DC Simpson, which was the subject of an article here in Vivisector. After the phenomenal failure of his comic "Raine Dog" and winning that online cartoonist contest (and announcing the strip would appear 0in a few weeks), it seems he fell out of the limelight in a rather embarassing way.

Still seems to be working on a syndicated strip, this about two weeks ago:

http://pedantia.deviantart.com/art/Zoey-s-Detective-Agency-196748430?q=gallery%3Apedantia&qo=0

Unable to leave out the self-insert little blue bird I note.

Also, slightly creepy self-portraits:

http://pedantia.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2ngev2
http://pedantia.deviantart.com/art/Portrait-of-the-artist-162774518?q=gallery%3Apedantia%2F10460535&qo=17

If you look at the comments on their DA page, some drama and fuss follows them still.
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