FA admin tries to secretly force people off forum, on being found out:"FUCK YOU"

[Pi]

You're making me look bad, stop it!!!
*goes on to do something stupid that looks bad*

[Glaice]

I wonder what sort of response from the other staff there will be, especially since it's Arshes talking about this...I'm guessing more PR nonsense from Dragoneer perhaps?


And yes, I'm also annoyed by the ineptness of those staff I listed here. I've hardly ever seen those react accordingly on the main site very much, not to mention how useless the other tech staff are.

[Conan]

Apparently, Dragoneer told Arshes that he's working on it in private (even though this has been said numerous times before). Pinkuh also weighed in, saying she'd deop inactive admins even if she thought Dragoneer would get mad. She also said that the only reason a number of the inactive admins are still there is because "Neer really can't stand letting go of certain members regardless of their inactivity becuase of BFF syndrome."

It's just very interesting to me that Dragoneer refuses to say anything about this in public, and it's not like he's busy, yesterday he posted a journal and an auction which the proceeds go to buy Sciggles a new TV. He can't be bothered to answer to the community he loves so much, but he can be bothered to use them to buy his girlfriend a new TV, because the one he has isn't good enough, I guess.

[Pi]

Pinkuh also [...] said that [...] Neer really can't stand letting go of certain members regardless of their inactivity becuase of BFF syndrome.

Isn't this the only reason that Pinkuh is still there? It's amazing the things these people say without any trace of irony.

It's just very interesting to me that Dragoneer refuses to say anything about this in public

If he doesn't say anything, it can't get repeated by the trolls, therefore he won't look bad. Obviously.

[AshleyAshes]

If he doesn't say anything, it can't get repeated by the trolls, therefore he won't look bad. Obviously.

It's a good thing that the trolls can still call him out for being so inattentive to FA, that his own staff need to make public forum thread just in hopes that it'd urge him to take an action. :3

[Conan]

Wait... Are you saying here and in your other post that someone's threatening or demeaning you? I'm not sure if I am getting the correct impression, but I am getting that you're angry at Dragoneer or someone else very important (who else I don't know) for his response to you and your fellow active staff over this and that this happened today. Could you correct me if my impression is mistaken?

We got threatened by him.

Neer threatened Pinkuh and pretty much made us all feel threatened for speaking our minds.

I see Dragoneer is keeping it klassy as usual.

[Freehaven]

Neer threatened Pinkuh and pretty much made us all feel threatened for speaking our minds.

Great job, 'Neer.

[Jim Demintia]

It's just very interesting to me that Dragoneer refuses to say anything about this in public, and it's not like he's busy, yesterday he posted a journal and an auction which the proceeds go to buy Sciggles a new TV.

So what's the current yield on that Iron Artist thing he netted $1200 from?

[Ben]

So, it looks like Carenath has been reinstated as a forum admin. That was maybe what, twice as long as Witchiebunny's self-imposed "suspension" over leaking the cub porn ban? Then again, he was never really suspended from power Re: Owning the FAF server, so I guess it doesn't really matter ultimately.

And while we're talking about Dragoneer's Iron Artist thing: He hasn't uploaded any art in two weeks, and the last submission was a personal piece of a huge-dicked Flamedramon. Thus far, he's taken a whole month to put out just two images of a promised one hundred. Why did he seriously think he could put out 100 of these by May?

[Conan]

The rules have now been modified to include:

# Malicious call outs towards users (users does include staff).
# Engaging in lynch mob style activity.

So basically, these two lines are a catch-all for anyone who speaks out against the site. While I'm sure the "good" mods and admins will know the difference, it's the bad ones (i.e. Carenath) who I'm sure will abuse this rule as much as possible.

[Pi]

The rules have now been modified to include:

# Malicious call outs towards users (users does include staff).
# Engaging in lynch mob style activity.

So basically, these two lines are a catch-all for anyone who speaks out against the site. While I'm sure the "good" mods and admins will know the difference, it's the bad ones (i.e. Carenath) who I'm sure will abuse this rule as much as possible.

"At the time, the submissions weren't against the rules. With the next revision of the AUP, well... See, it was^H^H^Hstill is like none of the people in charge ever read them, then when I ask them to point on the rules where the bad man touched them, they clam up. Next revision, illegal."

[a pigeon]

An anonymous person on lulz.net speaks their concerns about paying for an Iron Artist slot:

I am on his IA list, and I'm starting to think he'll never finish them. I'm about a week away from asking for a refund. He's got his money, he hasn't done anything with it that I've seen for FA (their payment service is still MIA as far as I know), and he's shown no progress, even going so far as drawing shit for himself over doing any of his literally hundered-some-odd commissions he's got backlogged. He even owes me from forever back and I have been polite in waiting...for about 5 years now. He's a fucking bum, through and through. I'm not sure why I was stupid enough to hand him money for a second time.

Showing where the priorities lie viz. communication et al, the last update on the official FA twitter (not that twitter ought to be used, but still) was on the 9th of Feb. and "For those who have been asking" was the long awaited history of the FA banners. In contrast, the FA united twitter was last updated today and has many more tweets of more substantial content in relation to the convention:

http://twitter.com/faunited

Priorities:

I refuse to look at any ME3 info. I'm going to take a few days off work and just dedicate myself to that game.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2104856/#cid:17167377

Hopefully he will have finished the Iron artists & 5 yrs. owed commission by "Holiday 2011" when that game comes out.

[Jim Demintia]

Did anyone have any doubts whatsoever that this was exactly what was going to happen? Namely, that Dragoneer is a "lazy bum" and not only that, lacks enough self-awareness to realize that a "lazy bum" taking on 100 commissions in the space of 3(?) months was never going to work?

I'm just surprised anyone handed him any money at all. Oh, wait. No I'm not.

[ProvincialTwit]

The thing that's most...I don't know, 'skeezy'?...about this whole thing, is that it's not like he hasn't had success in the past saying, "oh no oh no we are out of money FA will shut down unless people donate!" to get heaps upon heaps of free cash from porn-starved furfags.  He could have very easily pulled one of those again and likely gotten even more dough than he did for the 'iron artist' thing.  I mean, hell, he knew damn well he was going to be a lazy fatass and not actually draw 100 things for 100 people; if nothing else he could've framed it under the guise of a raffle and then just chosen whomever gave him the most asspats/e-blowjobs.  There was literally no reason for him to make a hundred promises that he never intended to keep, and a handful of other ways he could've gotten the money and come out looking like less of a douchebag.

It's like he's hardwired to choose the worst possible decision in any and all situations.

[Conan]

The thing that's most...I don't know, 'skeezy'?...about this whole thing, is that it's not like he hasn't had success in the past saying, "oh no oh no we are out of money FA will shut down unless people donate!" to get heaps upon heaps of free cash from porn-starved furfags.  He could have very easily pulled one of those again and likely gotten even more dough than he did for the 'iron artist' thing.  I mean, hell, he knew damn well he was going to be a lazy fatass and not actually draw 100 things for 100 people; if nothing else he could've framed it under the guise of a raffle and then just chosen whomever gave him the most asspats/e-blowjobs.  There was literally no reason for him to make a hundred promises that he never intended to keep, and a handful of other ways he could've gotten the money and come out looking like less of a douchebag.

It's like he's hardwired to choose the worst possible decision in any and all situations.

Remember that FA proper doesn't have a payment processor anymore, and it looks like nowhere wants them. Also, remember that Dragoneer thinks his servers in Virginia are subject to Pennsylvania's gambling laws, therefore he won't allow raffles on the site.

[Ben]

A good point does emerge from the raffle thing-- why didn't he do an auction for a single art piece? I mean shit, Nek0gami once pulled in 3000 dollars from one of those, he more than likely could have turned a really pretty penny offering something like that. But no, he goes the route of offering a shitload of commissions for far below minimum wage. Dude does not think clearly sometimes.

[Conan]

A good point does emerge from the raffle thing-- why didn't he do an auction for a single art piece? I mean shit, Nek0gami once pulled in 3000 dollars from one of those, he more than likely could have turned a really pretty penny offering something like that. But no, he goes the route of offering a shitload of commissions for far below minimum wage. Dude does not think clearly sometimes.

Well the COOL and POPULAR artists do iron artists, which means if he wants to be a COOL and POPULAR artist, he too needs to do an iron artist.

[MazelTovCocktail]

By the time enough people will be pissed off to make the frustration of Dragoneer breaking his promise more than a seemingly isolated problem to him, he'll have made any negativity directed toward him on FA punishable by permaban (if he hasn't already). 

If the "he's popular, I better kiss his ass" attitude that most furries have doesn't shutter him from having to face responsibility, he'll see to it that the rules do.

[Jim Demintia]

I mean, hell, he knew damn well he was going to be a lazy fatass

Dragoneer does not strike me as a person who is aware of his own limitations.

[ProvincialTwit]

I mean, hell, he knew damn well he was going to be a lazy fatass

Dragoneer does not strike me as a person who is aware of his own limitations.

I normally wouldn't do something like this but holy shit