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Dackstrus Back in Jail
« on: October 02, 2010, 09:45:59 pm »
Generic furry Dackstrus runs afoul of the law once again.  Sweetheart of the Furry Pound admins, there's been made a request to help donate to her cause.

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As many of you know, Dackstrus is currently incarcerated from what we understand and her family considers to be false information. It is also my unfortunate task to inform you that she has been injured, fairly extensively from an assault by multiple individuals. There has been little to no medical treatment for the injuries, regardless of her guilt for the initial charge the assault and lack of care given afterward is a travesty of justice. We are currently gathering what information we can to find out how we might assist. The bail is set exceptionally high due to the false information given to the police by an individual with the seeming intent of causing Dack harm. As far as we know it was only a word of mouth violation of probation and there is no physical proof of the violation. We will keep you posted as soon as we know more.

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As it stands right now total bail is set at $205,000 she will need around $3000 for bail...... we are currently trying to get a paypal account set up and attached to a bank account of one of her family members so that people can help her out if they can!

If anyone can help out it would be amazing...... I would use my personal paypal but I dont wanna be accused of fraud or screwing with you guys!!!!! I just want her OUT!

Will keep you posted on updates.

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OK the paypal to send her help is on this site...... just click the link!

http://www.angelfire.com/ego2/afavo.....te/TylerF.html

lets get her OUT!
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Now, the natural response is to ask for more information.  After all, someone we've only seen in TF2 wants three thousand dollars, and we've been given nothing else to believe.  Unfortunately, more information isn't readily available without contacting her family, and FA admin Witchiebunny has been diligent in deleting any comments from FA which do more than blindly support Dack.  Fortunately others have performed cursory research.

First, she is played by one Tyler Ferguson -- contrary to popular belief, Ferguson isn't female, nor transsexual.  (Claims that he was abused for being trans are baseless.)

Second, he is in fact in jail at the moment, and the request is not a scam.  Presuming the money in the paypal account makes it to his family, it will be used for his cause.

The rest of the details are more interesting.  First, we have Ferguson's inmate information.



The physical details are enough that friends can match the names, and we can confirm the bail amount here.  The particular crime isn't mentioned in this report, but we can see that without posting bail he'll be there until the 15th, for over a month total incarceration before a court date.  Court services provide a little more detail.



We can see a few details on his first arrest, in 2005.  This is why he's on probation, presumably.  The charge is listed as 289(A)(1), which under the California Penal Code means: Any person who commits an act of sexual penetration when the act is accomplished against the victim's will by means of force, violence, duress, menace, or fear of immediate and unlawful bodily injury on the victim or another person shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for three, six, or eight years.  What this means is that, five years ago, at the age of 18, Ferguson forcibly raped someone.  I'm not aware of any more readily available details.

His two recent charges follow.  12021(A)(1) states that Any person who has been convicted of a felony under the laws of the United States, the State of California, or any other state, government, or country or of an offense enumerated in subdivision (a), (b), or (d) of Section 12001.6, or who is addicted to the use of any narcotic drug, and who owns, purchases, receives, or has in his or her possession or under his or her custody or control any firearm is guilty of a felony.  12316(B)(1) states, No person prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under Section 12021 or 12021.1 of this code or Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code shall own, possess, or have under his or her custody or control, any ammunition or reloaded ammunition.  WeTip offers more information about the arrest itself: "Ferguson claimed the guns were part of an inheritance from his grandparents. They included a .308 bolt action rifle and a .32 caliber rifle and three pistols: a 9mm, .45 and .38 caliber handguns."  Many other weapons were found at locations "connected" to Ferguson.

We can't confirm that he was assaulted at any point, but considering the state of the California justice system, this isn't unbelievable.  It seems quite likely that he'll be returning to prison after his court date, but it may be understandable to post his bail simply to see that he has proper care.  Unfortunately, Ferguson is just one of thousands of inmates in similar situations across California.  And, California law being what it is, he has broken a severe law, and expects to face heavy penalties regardless of his present treatment.  California's private prison industry is a brutal profit machine, one that he appears to be familiar with.  I don't know of any reasonable way to help.
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Re: Dackstrus Back in Jail
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2010, 09:56:35 pm »
$205,000 is massive, even for rape, unless the possession of gun charges compounded.
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Re: Dackstrus Back in Jail
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2010, 05:43:50 am »
Oh man, now I remember this person.  I did meet them on TFP.  Are they transsexual?  I presumed they were just 'Guy that pretends to be a girl online and in SecondLife'.

That said, this person said to me that they earn $10 000 a day in SecondLife and in the same conversation said he wished that he could afford to have a dual monitor setup on his computer.

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Re: Dackstrus Back in Jail
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2010, 06:46:34 am »
Oh and is there a link to where TFP is announcing this stuff?

Cause I can't find it anywhere.

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Re: Dackstrus Back in Jail
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2010, 10:40:53 am »
Oh and is there a link to where TFP is announcing this stuff?

Cause I can't find it anywhere.

Judging by what Witchiebunny, a TFP admin, is saying in this journal, they decided to (try and) brush it under the carpet

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NOTE: I'm making this statement on MY behalf only. I am not representing the TFP admins, as you will see below. They're taking the stance they are to protect Dackstrus, which I can respect. However my priorities are a bit different.

I will say this now.

TFP involved itself in dackstrus'  case WITHOUT informing me, and WITHOUT my consent.

Which involved me by default. I didn't like it. I REALLY didn't like it, but I had no control over it, and what was done was done. I couldn't change it.

I trusted those on my staff who told me that the whole thing was fucked up and bogus. I trusted that they had the full scope of the situation, and as such I let things continue on. I let the second announcement about trying to make bail go up, and I didn't monitor the forum thread regarding the situation at all.

The FIRST inkling I had that something was fishy was an IM received at 3:00 AM Saturday morning and woken up to at 9 am regarding the injuries sustained by Dackstrus.

I pulled the forum thread then and discussed it with my admins, and the one in contact with the family informed me that they had access to Dack's inmate record and that it was not a hoax. Based on this information, I let discussion continue, only to have it made known to me later yesterday what Dack's previous conviction was.

Dackstrus, in short, was convicted of rape. It was a bullshit charge, in my opinion-Dack was 18 and the previous person was 17, and it was pressed by the parents of the 17 year old. IMHO, such a situation doesn't warrant a rape charge. But there it is. I still think Dack's a great person, I really do. But this is.....important information.

This is a matter of public record, so I'm not hurting anyone's privacy by revealing this.

Given this information, TFP admins decided to remove the announcements and keep the forum thread hidden and tell anyone who asked that "it was a private matter". Why? Because even though we all feel it's a BS charge, the implication o f"rape" is a grave one, and it was felt that members would not see the circumstances behind it, only the charge. And as such, releasing this information would be detrimental to Dackstrus' character and her cause.

It wasn't until this morning that I realized that if we had members donate based on the previous information (see: incomplete information), then they deserve to know the full situation so that they can decide whether or not they still want their money to go to this cause.

It's respectful. And it's what's right.

The TFP admins disagreed with me, and rather....enthusiastically. And unanimously. As said above, their aim is to protect Dackstrus from harm.

Mine is to be honest with my TFP members who may have donated, because given the choice between Dackstrus and all of TFP....I will choose TFP every time.

Those of you in TFP who have seen this and want your money back will want to contact the account who is making updates on dackstrus' FA account. They will be able to help you.

TFP has had nothing to do with actually taking any money, so we have none to give back. You'll have to contact the family.

As for TFP's further involvement in this situation, including our endorsement of the paypal and fundraising in the first place, you have my PERSONAL apology for that, though I cannot offer TFP's official apology.

I will do my best to make sure that if we do take on such a situation again, it is done with considerably more care and information.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1759094/

Re the rape charge, AshleyAshes commented on the journal:

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I have some concerns about this 'rape' just being a statutory rape. In Cali while there is no logical 'Age of concent is X, but if only Y years older it's still legal' rule; If the person is 3 years younger or less then it's a misdemeanor instead of a felony. He would be charged under Section 261.5 of the penal code. He wasn't and the documentation clearly states that he was charged under Section 289.

261: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PEN/3/1/9/1/s261

289: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PEN/3/1/9/5/s289

So he wasn't charged for any form of 'statutory rape', he was charged with actual 'rape'.

There'd be no BS needed to get him charged under 261. If she was 17 and he 18, bam, 261 applies so long as you can prove they DID have sex. For 289 he has to be convicted of ACTUALLY forcing someone.
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Re: Dackstrus Back in Jail
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2010, 02:02:50 pm »
A post on lulz.net alleges murky business:

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an individual responsible for an estate to which Dack was a benificiary cooked up an elaborate fraud to sieze property, assets, and money from the estate, against the stipulations of the will.

Following the arrest, an individual named Lauren Loveall ( http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000345184595 ) who was employed as a personal assistant began contacting acquaintances trying to estimate the value of items in the house which could easily be stolen and fenced. She then proceeded to steal large amounts of money from accounts tied to the estate, more than enough to qualify as grand theft and felony fraud.

Conveniently, after these two people had committed the largest solo acts of grand theft and fraud I've ever heard of firsthand, someone tips the police and gets Dack arrested to cover their tracks.

It sure is awfully convenient that as these people are busy trying to cover their tracks, and one of them is busy trying to fence everything she stole and launder her embezzled money (and openly announcing plans to spend it), information crops up trying to discourage the release of the victim so that they cannot act quickly to address the crimes being committed against them.

Personally, I'd take the side of someone pressured into a plea of no contest (a very weak plea deal, suggesting a lack of evidence against the defendant in the first place), before I'd take the bait of people currently in the process of committing multiple serious felonies.

But hey, that's just me.

And a second one (which is rather pretentious, regardless of any veracity or not):

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Naturally, because the point of the incarceration was to suppress the evidence and stymie litigation and prosecution against the individuals responsible.

Evidence will come to light in time following the victim's release... and since those responsible went to such lengths to use information warfare, all available details of arrests, court records, litigation, etc. will be disseminated thoroughly.

Rogue elements committing sloppy crimes and hurriedly covering them up are really no match for an assortment of people who can witness what is going on and provide information as it becomes available. Their plan was to prevent bail from being arranged, and that failed.

Their downfall begins shortly.
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2010, 02:35:02 pm »
A post on lulz.net alleges murky business:

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an individual responsible for an estate to which Dack was a benificiary cooked up an elaborate fraud to sieze property, assets, and money from the estate, against the stipulations of the will.

Following the arrest, an individual named Lauren Loveall ( http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000345184595 ) who was employed as a personal assistant began contacting acquaintances trying to estimate the value of items in the house which could easily be stolen and fenced. She then proceeded to steal large amounts of money from accounts tied to the estate, more than enough to qualify as grand theft and felony fraud.

Conveniently, after these two people had committed the largest solo acts of grand theft and fraud I've ever heard of firsthand, someone tips the police and gets Dack arrested to cover their tracks.

It sure is awfully convenient that as these people are busy trying to cover their tracks, and one of them is busy trying to fence everything she stole and launder her embezzled money (and openly announcing plans to spend it), information crops up trying to discourage the release of the victim so that they cannot act quickly to address the crimes being committed against them.

Personally, I'd take the side of someone pressured into a plea of no contest (a very weak plea deal, suggesting a lack of evidence against the defendant in the first place), before I'd take the bait of people currently in the process of committing multiple serious felonies.

But hey, that's just me.

I saw that and it's an interesting story.  Interesting because even if true it's nothing but a side story.  The guy was still grossly violating his probation it's just that someone else knew about it and called the cops.

Here is what interests me though: Either Dack or his family are probably the ones feeding information to the TFP crew.  So they are probably the ones who told the TFP crew that the there was 'no physical evidence' when the family should have known of the evidence from day one.  Dack seems to live with his parents.  The news article said the '24000 block of Masters Cup Way'.  Google found that Tyler Ferguson lives at 24787 Masters Cup Way and it's a $200 000 house owned by Robert Ferguson.  He lives with his parents so I think his parents would know quite well if the cops came in and recovered five firearms in the house.

I think the family (Assuming it's not actually Dack himself) has been feeding false information to the TFP crew to make him look like the victim.

On that note... GOD DAMN can Google find a freaky ammount of shit on people...

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Re: Dackstrus Back in Jail
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2010, 02:53:47 pm »
So if his parents live in a $200,000 house how is it that random furries on the Internet need to put up $3,000 to get him out of jail?
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Re: Dackstrus Back in Jail
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2010, 08:25:30 pm »
So if his parents live in a $200,000 house how is it that random furries on the Internet need to put up $3,000 to get him out of jail?

Why spend your own money when you can lay a guilt trip on a forum full of your son's peers and convince them to spend the money for you?
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2010, 10:36:55 pm »
Or they know damn well he's guilty and/or a flight risk, and...

Wait a minute.  Where in the hell do you live that a $200k house indicates vast wealth?  Hell they're probably not putting up the bail money because they're too busy struggling with their mortgage.

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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2010, 07:22:29 am »
$3000 isn't vast wealth when it comes to getting your own flesh and blood out of jail. At least I wouldn't think so. On the other hand,  "Masters Cup Way" sounds like a street from one of those awful stucco exurbs, aka Ground Zero for the housing crisis, so you do have a point.
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2010, 09:29:07 am »
Also, I just cannot help but be highly amused that the people commenting on this situation all seem to be so incredibly fixated on his prior conviction and are completely ignoring the actual charges that got him thrown back in jail; and on top of that they all seem to be assuming the rape conviction was statutory which probably says something profound about furries in general.  I'm not sure which is worse - believing that all sex involving furries is 'consentual', or believing that sex with someone underage is A-OK.

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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2010, 09:39:19 am »
Well, on its own the underage part is kind of bullshit, seeing as he was 18 and the other person was 17, but as was pointed out the conviction wasn't statutory, he did force himself on someone, so hey, I'm fully ok with the prosecutor using the full extent of the law available.

Also, I don't think anyone is saying that all sex involving furries in consensual (unless someone's actually saying that at FA, which wouldn't surprise me). Statutory rape is a problem for gays in general, especially younger gays, because its often used by parents who didn't know their son was gay to "get back" at their (usually ex) boyfriend for "turning them gay". Add that to the fact that often, when this sort of situation comes up, the relationship, if there ever was one, is over, it can really turn ugly.

That said this appears to have no bearing on what actually happened here, but it does explain furries' preoccupation with statutory rape.
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Re: Dackstrus Back in Jail
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2010, 11:30:25 am »
A lot of people are claiming 'Oh she lied and SAID it was rape'.  I sorta don't buy that.  Really, trials don't work if the only evidence you have is your word agianst his.  Hell, there are even rape victims who were not VIOLENTLY raped who can't get justice because there is no evidence of rape other than her own word. 

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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2010, 11:49:13 am »
Oh, man. This isn't good:

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Ferguson now faces additional charges of possession of an assault weapon. He is being held without bail at the Santa Clarita Valley station.
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Re: Dackstrus Back in Jail
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2010, 12:20:51 pm »
There's supposive word that all these weapons were enherited from his grandfather after he died earlier this year.  I'm curious as to how true that is.  Though still it doesn't explain why he didn't take immediate action when the will was read and the stuff divied up.  I doubt your probation officer would bust you if you called and said 'My Grandfather died and left me all these guns but I can't have guns.  What do I do???'  Heck, documented evidence of him making that call probably would have gotten him a nice 'not guilty' if someone dragged him back to jail for that.

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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2010, 12:48:39 pm »
Really, trials don't work if the only evidence you have is your word agianst his.

In this case, supposedly, it was his word against hers and her family's.  But really they usually do work that way.  The outcome will often depend on the judge and jury, how much they believe the victim was "asking for it" and how much the defendant looks like a bad guy.  It's a terrible system.  Either way, I want to believe that five years of prison and probation were good enough, and we can trust Ferguson if we let him back onto the streets.

Oh, man. This isn't good:

Check the date, that article's nearly a month old.  It was published the day of his arrest, and it often takes a few days for the judge to set bail.  I've heard that Ferguson's posted bail and he's free (or hospitalized) until his next court date.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2010, 02:05:14 pm »
Though still it doesn't explain why he didn't take immediate action when the will was read and the stuff divied up.  I doubt your probation officer would bust you if you called and said 'My Grandfather died and left me all these guns but I can't have guns.  What do I do???'  Heck, documented evidence of him making that call probably would have gotten him a nice 'not guilty' if someone dragged him back to jail for that.

Well, it sort of seems like, given the allegations of funny business around the estate, that maybe this whole thing came down to timing. Maybe he didn't think he needed to notify his probation officer instantly, so whoever it is trying to take him out of the picture took advantage of the situation and got him thrown into prison.

Seems odd that an assault weapon would be an inheritance, but I know very little about guns and the people who collect them, or what you'd consider an "inheritance" -- sort of the difference between a 19th century railroad pocketwatch and a digital Timex from Wal-Mart.
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2010, 03:03:41 pm »
Seems odd that an assault weapon would be an inheritance, but I know very little about guns and the people who collect them, or what you'd consider an "inheritance" -- sort of the difference between a 19th century railroad pocketwatch and a digital Timex from Wal-Mart.

It's less odd when you consider what is typically defined as an "assault weapon". There's a very fine line between "hunting rifle" and "assault weapon", and it's just as often an arbitrary and/or appearance-based one. Could be something as simple as ol' Grampa having managed to keep his service rifle from WWII or having a rifle with a folding stock or something like that to have an eager little prosecuting attorney whipping out the "assault weapon" definition.

And yeah, maybe he didn't think it was pressing to notify his parole officer... or maybe, y'know, he was kind of busy thinking about how his grandfather had just died. Ex-cons have been known to care about their family members on occasion, whatever their other flaws.

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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2010, 03:49:10 pm »
I suppose the issue here is that the convicted guy here and his family are the ONLY source of information on the trail.  For obvious reasons their word is suspect.  It's a shame that no one can come up with the DOCUMENTED court brief on it.  Even weather or not he plead 'no contest' can't be proven as the court posts that up as 'Guilty/Convicted' in LA.