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Kevin Duane / Assinio, copyright fears and furry fandom
« on: August 06, 2010, 01:45:42 pm »
By request, this is a re-write of something I posted to CYD. You know how a lot of furry artists worry their art is going to get stolen or ripped off?  This fear goes waaaay back in the fandom.  Most people don't know it, but it originated from a specific incident and one specific person. The paranoia has spread like a meme in the fandom ever since, though how it started has been largely forgotten.

This is the story of Kevin Duane (aka Assinio).  Kevin is a guy with a donkey transformation fetish, a scraggly beard, a resonant self-confident voice, and eyes that don't blink often enough, emitting a sort of crazy-guy-on-the-street vibe. Talking to him can be... an experience, yes, an experience.  He's actually fairly intelligent, except that he's not good at long-term financial planning.  Short-term, no problem.  This is the first thing to understand about Kevin during the 1990s: It was about money.  Almost everything he did was part of a money-making scheme.

Kevin Duane moved to Toronto, Canada from somewhere in the U.S. Northeast in the early 1990s. I've heard he fled New York to escape creditors, but I have no idea if that's true. If it was, it foreshadowed things to come.  In Toronto, Kevin married a woman named Lucille who supported his application for Canadian citizenship.

He shortly became friends with a guy named Terry Smith, not to be confused with Terrie Smith, the female Californian artist.  Terry ran a BBS called Xanth, and in 1992 it hosted over a hundred furry images available for download.  Kevin and Terry had access to a scanner, which were expensive and a fairly rare piece of equipment at the time. Personal computers were still using DOS.  Image files were small and low-resolution (the JPEG format was fairly new) and most color images were cruddy, heavily pixelated 256-color GIFs.

In 1992, furry art circulated very slowly. You could buy folios and zines from Ed Zolna's mail-order service, you could buy prints at ConFurence in California once a year, or there was the Tezuka FTP site (which wasn't very good).  But mostly you had to personally know furry artists and hang out with them, passing around sketchbooks or photocopies. Photocopied artwork was all over the place.  The problem with Toronto was that it was an artistic void.  Like many in the fandom, long-distance communication was the best you could manage.  Kevin had contacts with a number of people, and he made some extra cash by selling Jerry Collins' folios.

Anyway, Kevin and Terry acquired artwork from wherever they could and scanned it. This probably would have gone completely unnoticed if they hadn't altered the images. Bad cropping and coloring, adding comments ("Look at those knockers!"), but most of all was the addition of "XANTH BBS, ###-####" in huge obnoxious lettering to each one, essentially turning them into ads.

The big-name fandom artists caught wind of this in early 1993 and freaked out. For those like Terrie Smith and her husband Glen Wooten, who were already not inclined to digitize any of Terrie's artwork (loss of $$), this was the nail in the coffin.  Tygger Graf exploded in her usual hissyfit bipolar way, even though only two of her images had been used.  Ken Sample's response can been seen in this May 12, 1993 alt.fan.furry post. And there were others.

Canadian Smith tried to downplay his association with Kevin.  What was really bizarre was that when people tried to contact Terry... it was Kevin who answered.  Using Terry's account.  Which tended to nullify the claims that their association was minimal, and it quickly became apparent that Kevin was mostly behind what had happened.

The long-term effects of this?  For the next couple of years, it was very common to see furry artwork marked with the phrase, "Do not redistribute".  Of the original artists burned, most of them never comfortably embraced the Internet as a means to circulate their work.  Ken Sample's got some of his online, but it represents less than 1% of his output.  Terrie Smith only posts the crappiest of thumbnails.  Lance Rund's artwork wasn't on Xanth, and he yanked all of it he could find online; aside from the occasional contribution to Yarf, his work remained rare until Associated Student Bodies came along. (Yet he also provided artwork for Kevin's CD projects anyway.)  But most of all, the Xanth incident created feelings of anger, betrayal and lost revenue.  To this day furry artists freak out over the smallest infractions, slapping copyright notices over everything - even the ones who can't draw. When Sibe came along in 2000, he simply stoked the fire, bringing furry art piracy to a whole new level, perpetuating the fears all over again.

What happened to Kevin?  Well... that's an interesting story too. First there was his indirect response to the Xanth incident: a passive-aggressive trolling of the fandom in a Dr. Seuss-style booklet called Green Tits and Fur. Here's a PDF file of it (check out the copyright note), as well as artist Taral Wayne's commentary.

Like many in furry fandom, Kevin saw an opportunity to make money.  He's the kind of guy who comes up with get-rich-quick ideas that never quite pan out and work at a loss. "But hey, now I've got this other great idea and this one's sure to work with the cash I've got left from the last scheme..." and repeat. Most of these schemes revolved around selling CDs of furry porn under his business label, Digital Impudendum. Animal Magnetism was the first of many discs to follow, starting in the mid-1990s.

The problem was that Kevin didn't always pay the artists who contributed to it. Still, he was a savvy shyster.  He'd pay some of the artists - typically the ones who carried more social weight in the fandom.  That way if someone said "He doesn't pay artists!" someone else would pipe up, "Yes he does!" and he could string people along.  You were also more likely to be paid if you lived closer to Toronto or attended the same conventions as him.

Still, rumors abounded.  For the next five years, to keep his business sustainable he sought out new, young artists in the fandom who hadn't heard of him who were easy to persuade with tales of riches and exposure.  Some of the more well-established artists continued to do business with him - as long as a contract was signed and the money paid up-front. Money is money.

See, Kevin had this habit of "paying" some artists with free copies of the CDs... which they'd have to sell to make back the money they should have been paid with; competing against other artists who were also trying to sell the same CDs they'd been stuck with. Or they'd be "paid" with bits of computer hardware.  (I've been told that Kevin acquired some of these by writing to computer companies, claiming to be a tech reviewer, and offering to write positive magazine reviews in return for free samples. No idea if this is true.)

By the late 1990s, things were looking bad as his schemes and the rumor mill were working against him.  He diversified his catalog a little, such as selling shirt buttons with annoying, swirling, blinking LEDs on them. Here's one of his earlier $60 deals: from alt.fan.furry.muck, Feb. 13 1996, Spooge-A-Day. (Oh, Johnny Blanco, you naive balloon fetishist.)

Now I would like to say Kevin Duane wasn't always looking to make a quick buck. At one convention, playing off his own reputation, he offered himself to be hit in the face with a cream pie for the charity auction.  Another incident: When artist Steve Martin crossed the Canadian border to visit Toronto on the way to attending Anthrocon 2002, he was arrested for refusing to pay import duty on the "sellable goods" (boxes of furry porn) in the back of his car, arguing that they were going to be sold in the U.S. and were merely passing through Canada.  Kevin scrounged together a rather hefty amount of cash very quickly to post Steve's bail, although it took much longer for Steve to get his merchandise back.

Other things Kevin did were for public relations.  On the one hand there was generosity involved - but on the other hand it was also a hook to try to encourage sales.  This usually involved lots of free food - pizza, hot dogs and such. Sometimes he got himself a table in the dealer's room.  Failing that, the artist's alley.  Failing that, he would sell stuff out of his hotel room - his ice cream parties, where free ice cream was served with liqueur poured over it. (I don't know if he checked IDs for drinking age.)  He was also a mobile salesman, his trusty laptop with porn slideshow ever on hand, a shoulderbag full of CDs ready to go.

Things finally caught up with him at Anthrocon in 1999.  One of the con rules was that adult artwork in the dealer's room had to be tastefully covered over, with stickers or whatnot.  Kevin's laptop display did nothing of the sort (and he may have shown porn to Kagemushi's mother).  He was permanently banned - one of the first. I wish I knew the full story of what happened - that would probably be worth its own post.  Anyone know all the details?

Anyway, despite the ban, next year Kevin went anyway. Here's how that worked out. (Posted to deja.comm.fur.soapbox, July 11, 2000.) This is sometimes jokingly referred to as "Lawncon".

After 2000, Kevin Duane fades quickly from view, what with the cold shoulder treatment and his failed furry business ventures. In artist circles he was already low-radar (notorious yes, but people avoided talking about him), and outside of that he was almost invisible.  The only person still paying attention to him was a furry and Something Awful goon-wannabe named Steve Gattuso, who for some reason went on a personal vendetta. This resulted in a briefly notorious NSFW image called Burn the chair!

Meanwhile in Canada, things were catching up with Kevin too. Particularly his disastrous relationship with his wife, who says she was paying his phone bills while he was carrying on with a fantasy writer in northern Ontario. Actually the real problem was that despite living in Canada for over 15 years, Kevin never followed through to change his landed-immigrant status by applying for citizenship. (There's a fee involved.)  And the government bureaucracy was starting to notice. At one point returning from the U.S., he was refused entry.  After making a series of desperate phone calls, he was told to keep trying - eventually he'd get a less-diligent border guard who'd wave him through. It worked.

You'd think this would be a wake-up call to get the paperwork rolling, but no. After additional warnings, in 2009 there was a domestic dispute in which he allegedly bit his wife and pushed her son over. (Not his own; from a previous marriage of hers.)  This became an opportunity to arrest him for assault, and without her support for his citizenship, the government computers flagged his name as someone who'd been there too long. The police gave him a criminal record, and deported him. He's rumored to be living in Philadelphia at the moment. I wonder if he ghosts Anthrocon.

And that's the story of Kevin Duane, furry porn peddler.
 
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Re: Kevin Duane / Assinio, copyright fears and furry fandom
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2010, 02:39:11 pm »
Interesting article, well done.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2010, 02:47:49 pm »
This post is fantastic and I'd love to put it on the front page blog.

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Re: Kevin Duane / Assinio, copyright fears and furry fandom
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2010, 03:12:09 pm »
Sure, if you want, it's your site.  You could stick embarrassing forum quotes up there too and who's to stop you? Anyway, I'm flattered - personally I consider the whole thing more sad than epic trainwreck, and he really hasn't been an issue in the fandom for 10 years now.  But hey, if it's fun to read, why not!

What I wish I had was the story of how Assinio got banned from Anthrocon.  Archived messages treat it as common knowledge at the time, but no one seems to have posted the actual details.

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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2010, 04:13:23 pm »
I wonder how much of this is lost on new artists; people who grew up with the Internet, and 4chan even. It's easy enough to understand the perspective of people against digital distribution in 1993, and well, people form opinions and sometimes they're hard to change, even if it means irrelevance. But I can't see any serious artist starting up today, without this sort of baggage, not being on FA or at least dA. It's the same reason every corporation and commercial entertainment act is on Twitter, Facebook, etc. even if they don't really want to be or there's no immediately-obvious benefit to them. Quality aside, the amount of free furry art is just staggering, and 90% or more of it has been put up there by artists themselves. The whole "do not redistribute" thing becomes more understandable in the context of this article, even if now, in 2010, the rationale is more or less gone.

The rise of the Internet has probably killed profits, I'd imagine; because the model of attaching profits to distribution doesn't work in the age of the Internet. Not as well as it used to, anyway. You have to more or less rely on commissions and convention sales.

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Re: Kevin Duane / Assinio, copyright fears and furry fandom
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2010, 03:07:17 am »
I think it says a lot about a person if they get kicked out of Canada.
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Re: Kevin Duane / Assinio, copyright fears and furry fandom
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2010, 11:44:12 pm »
... the guy still shows up on Furrymuck.

I remember seeing him for the first time, at a sci-fi con in Detroit of all places, 2000, maybe 2001. The fandom-imposed shunning and silence left me not really knowing who this guy was, really, so we took a peek at what he was selling. Oh, discs of furry porn. "That's not furry porn," he said with the air of an insulted true believer and pulled out his trademark phrase, "It's *anthropomorphic erotica*." To which we replied we were furries, stop the bullshit act, it's furry porn. Ah, good times.

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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2010, 05:25:19 pm »
Thanks. I was the one who requested it all that while back. :)

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Re: Kevin Duane / Assinio, copyright fears and furry fandom
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2010, 05:30:49 pm »
I am the wife of Kevin Duane. I did not do any "nasty stuff" - I was too busy working two jobs to pay his phone bills while he was carrying on with a fantasy writer in Northern Ontario.

Please don't make asides like you did in your post. There are actually people in this world who don't want to hurt other people and do their best not to. Unfortunately, Kevin is not one of them.

He is still refusing to take any responsibility for his actions. Stay away from him, as he can detect any sign of weakness and will use it. Oh, by the way, the domestic assault was against myself and my child. Which is why he will never receive expiation in this life. Ya can hit me, but not my kid!

Don't mean to vent, but do show some discretion in your comments when you do not have the facts. If he owes you money, I do have an address, not that he will respond, even to legal documents, leaving me in limbo.

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2010, 09:59:16 am »
Not a problem lambarker, I'll edit the post accordingly, later tonight.  Some of the info I know first-hand, but that piece of information came from a third party whom I typically trust; sorry to hear it was misinterpreted/flawed. Other parts of the post lacked information and were deliberately vague - his marital status, for example, which is why I used the phrase "hooked up". You have my sympathies for having put up with him.

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2010, 04:37:36 pm »
Wow, looks like a textbook case of sociopath if there ever was one.

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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2010, 12:46:26 pm »
Oh Christ, THIS GUY! When I first read this I knew that Digital Impudendum sounded familiar, so I did a little research into their other products and yes, I have actually met this guy. STORY TIME, JERKOFFS:

So, in 2003? or 2002, I forget the date, I was at ComicCon (I used to go every year until I moved to Texas in 2005) and saw a booth with a huge array of signage about demian.5's "When I am King" everywhere. Being the BRAND NEW DAWN OF WEBCOMICS and also having previously talked to Scott McCloud (who had a GIANT BONER for When I am King and the potential of the new-fangled "web-comic" format [he was also gloriously spurty for LeisureTown as well, which is how I got introduced to it]) I was pretty excited and thought that maybe Demian had a booth or something. Alas, this was not the case.

Assinio was running the booth and selling a myriad of cds and whatnot, but was mainly advertising his "When I Am King" cd. Again, being THE NEW ERA OF INTERNET and whatnot I was a little stupidly excited to be able to purchase the cd but I liked supporting hte artists and whatnot and thought it would be neat to have. I started up a conversation with Assinio about the comic and he immediately changed the subject to Furries, asking if I knew what they were and if I liked them and etc etc etc. The entire time he was obviously glaring at my tits, which sort of shook me because usually most dudes selling stuff at ComicCon were really professional and neat and uh didn't stare at my tits. This was the first time I had ever been creeped out at a goddamned comic convention, so that's saying something. He was also the epitome of gross pervonerd stereotype: way overweight, kinda balding, and unable to shut up about his furry porn. He went on for a while, talking about this great furry porn stuff he had for sale and how hot it was and such. Again, most people selling porn at ComicCon weren't like this and would let the, uh, merchandise sell itself but he was REALLY really getting into this in a way that totally unsettled me.

Anyway, eventually I tried to buy the "When I Am King" CD because I sort of wanted to go, but oh! Apparently I can't buy the CD unless I purchase one of his furry porn collections instead. I tell him I'm not interested and ask if I can just buy Demian.5's webcomic whatnot. He goes OH no no no, see, I was just going to sell it to you but since you're interested in furry, you MUST have one of these to go along with it. I repeated that, no, I wasn't interested in the furry porn and yes I'm sure it's fantastically hot but I'd rather just get the one CD. Long story short, he REFUSED to sell me the digital copy of "When I Am King" unless I bought one of the porn CD's along with it. I have no idea why I didn't just walk away but i'm a pussy in real life and am extremely anxious, so I have a really hard time telling people no. I picked up one of the samplers for a buck, and that's how I ended up with this CD filled with furry porn. THE END

oh, and PS: I only actually looked at it in 2004 or so, and found that some of the art included was by Dave Kelly (of note: it pretty ugly and was of a shitty blowjob). Since we were on speaking terms (we used to be friends, then he pulled a massively uncool move on me and I stopped talking to him, then he became POPULAR and etc etc and so we talked sparringly) I asked him about it. He told me he had no idea how the art got there (could have been lying, considering he lied about a ton of stuff in his I WAS NEVER A FURRY WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT UGH LIARS but he also could have been telling the truth) and that he never authorized anyone to resell his art. So there's that aspect of it!
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2010, 01:56:03 pm »
Honestly, your posts from what I've seen so far are decent, but would be better if you dropped the Internet Tough Guy/goon-wannabe pretense, which you kind of undermine yourself:

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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2010, 01:04:15 am »
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Re: Kevin Duane / Assinio, copyright fears and furry fandom
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2011, 06:52:03 am »
To the person in the article that called me naive.. guilty as charged.

Y'see I didn't know anything back then and I was wayyy too trusting and I am here to say that Kevin Duane is absolutely the scum of the earth but here are things that you didn't know.

For example. He used me as his lackey at points in time when I was living on the east and west coast. Way back when I was living in Staten Island he was asking me if I could get some VHS copies for Taral Wayne (I think it was for the rescuers and rescuers down under) and he said he would pay me back.... in computer parts. The whole part in the article where he went to companies and claimed to be a tech reviewer.. that's all true.  I was SO trusting and I was like ok! sure! But then as time went on he was like "Well I can't get you computer parts so what about some commissions from Doug Winger?" I was a bit miffed at this and went .. ok.. sure.. and told him what I wanted.

Fast forward a few years to when I was living in the bay area and in fact so was he.. I have no idea who he was with or why (but I know he was living in Northern California in around 1997 or so.)  A friend of mine and I went to APE (Amateur Press Expo) in San Jose and he was there peddling his wares outside the convention and he tells me that he got a table for a bit comic convention and needed someone to help work it. He would pay me (in cd's of course) and I like an idiot said ... sure!

Imagine this scene. You're in a hall of people selling regular comics and there's little kids everywhere and you're peddling these cd's with adult art on them.

I couldn't even begin to tell you that I look back at this and feel so.. dirty. God I was so fucking stupid.

Anyway, that was pretty much it as people began to tell me stories of what happened at AAC 1999 (even tho I was there and yes he was in the dealers room) and that was it for him. The guy had delusions of grandeur and thought that just because he thought he could do something.. he should.

As far as I know a lot of artists did not get paid in his projects. Some projects were going to be done and were scrapped because the artist backed out (a CD of Robert Hill's art was in the works but he never got enough art from him)

And yes he's still on FurryMuck as to his whereabouts.. no idea. Hopefully it's as far the fuck away from me as possible.
 

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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2011, 10:25:56 am »
Now, you see people, if you're going to bump a thread, this is how you do it.

Thanks for the personal insight, JB.  You're more than welcome to bump, say, the Groat thread, or the Kage thread, should you have any further anecdotes to share.

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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2011, 06:27:43 am »
There is a kage thread? Ohhhh fuck.. let me at that bitch. :D

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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2011, 05:59:53 pm »
Wasn't he living with Andrew Greene (Blaze/Rosen Otter) for a while after he got kicked out?  I heard that Rosen was using Kevin as his latest rent bitch for a while.