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Caricaturing Dragoneer gets you permabanned now!
« on: June 30, 2010, 06:07:10 pm »
Just got a little story to tell, rather than just posting on some furry related imageboard, and regarding the need to make a first post I'm gonna start by this one.

There's a story about some guy, er.. okay, more like a cat, who like to draw fun stuffs with furries. and porn, and gore, and random things that makes or makes no sense, he just like to draw. Also that cat guy tends to be a goon, borderline antifurry, but draws a lot of them.
Well, that cat, one day, drew a pic because a black wolf asked him to and paid him for. That's his job anyways.

Couple of years later the black wolf gets banned because he was fucking retarded spending all his money on pictures. The Dragon banned the wolf for being a failure at life, that wasnt written in the TOS but he did it anyways and everybody's happy.

( Note: both the dragon and the wolf are at war, both asked people to give them free money to buy more pretty pictures, pretending the money was essential. for the dragon to pay the server, and for the wolf to not freeze to death. Both keeps doing their business. )

The cat, still not giving a fuck as always, decided to draw something because drawing the same boring thing wasn't fun, however the dragon fighting with the wolf were pretty worth it, and he drew the wolf holding the head of the dragon, cause that was fun. but the dragon owns the site where the cat posted!



Another wolf, a red and blue one this time, found that drawing made by cat on the dragon's site, and was horrified! Quick, someone ban the cat! How dare can he depict our beloved dragon this way! Meanwhile the Dragon was at Pittsburgh having some fun in a cute world full of fluffy critters. When the Dragon comes back home and see what the cat drew, he got so mad! Thus he perma-banned the cat because he drew a picture with a wolf that killed a dragon, and before again, he drew another nasty stuff. Bad cat! Why didn't cat drew the dragon killing the wolf or the
dragon eating poo and raping baby critters? Having the head cut is not sexy!

so if the dragon is offended by a drawing made by a cat... doesn't it means he could be a mice?

~Ju.

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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2010, 06:14:13 pm »
Oh I forgot : being saddened seeing the cat without his gallery, the wolf bought the drawing the cat did because he liked it. ...it was about to happen  ;D\


 Dragon : Sean Piche; : Cat : Patachu Kayastuffsha; Wolf : Allan; Red Wolf : Chase.

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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2010, 07:12:16 pm »
This does not surprise me one bit.  Admittedly, I don't know all of the nitty gritty details of FurAffinity, but the guy did ban ChewFox for basically being honest about what a lot of furries do.  And this happened outside of the website and was technically out of his "jurisdiction."  Someone I know once told me that Furaffinity does (or at least did) essentially have a censorship system in place, as every single post anyone made had to be approved by moderators before going up.  

I suppose this drama is nothing new, though.  A lot of furries end up going after each other for the most petty of reasons, and this is no exception.  Hell, it is common for furries to troll each other on their own sites when trolls are not around, and I suppose this easily extends to those in positions of moderation and administration of websites using their powers to silence critics, people having fun at their expense, etc.  Come to think of it, furries and tolls (okay, there are exceptions, i.e. anti-furverts, those not-so-common sophisticated trolls, etc.) are two sides of the same coin in some cases, given that they both have tendencies to try to rile other people up and such.  And they sometimes both take the internet seriously while hypocritically rallying against the very notion of taking the internet seriously to begin with.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2010, 06:09:48 pm »
This does not surprise me one bit.  Admittedly, I don't know all of the nitty gritty details of FurAffinity, but the guy did ban ChewFox for basically being honest about what a lot of furries do.  And this happened outside of the website and was technically out of his "jurisdiction."

He basically does whatever he thinks will make him the most popular. So when you have an object of universal hate like ChewFox, even though she didn't violate the TOS or the AUP, banning her makes Sean look like a hero, which is all he really cares about, in the end.

On the other end, witness the bitching on this site and others about people who cause real trouble on FA and go for months on end without any action by the admin staff over there.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2010, 10:04:13 pm »
This does not surprise me one bit.  Admittedly, I don't know all of the nitty gritty details of FurAffinity, but the guy did ban ChewFox for basically being honest about what a lot of furries do.  And this happened outside of the website and was technically out of his "jurisdiction."

He basically does whatever he thinks will make him the most popular. So when you have an object of universal hate like ChewFox, even though she didn't violate the TOS or the AUP, banning her makes Sean look like a hero, which is all he really cares about, in the end.

On the other end, witness the bitching on this site and others about people who cause real trouble on FA and go for months on end without any action by the admin staff over there.

Hm.  I guess crass opportunism is nothing alien to such people; I have seen it exhibited by other furries in other places as well.  

Just a few glances here and there at FA show me that there are all kinds of double standards going on, given that I have seen furries troll each other, yet very little, if anything, ever happens.  On the other hand, when some non-fur trolls show up there, they are banned within minutes.  Some people have tired to paint FA as some kind of "furry lite", i.e. a site that does not show as many of the fandom's problems.  However, I honestly can't tell the difference between the crap that goes on at FA and the bad stuff that goes on in the fandom in general (I only see a minor difference of furries trolling each other more often).  One just has to scratch the surface of things at FA to see the same ugly face that is on so many furies. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 08:51:36 am »
Just a few glances here and there at FA show me that there are all kinds of double standards going on, given that I have seen furries troll each other, yet very little, if anything, ever happens.

Sean will even join in on occasion, and he's not beyond taking his personal feuds public, as is seen in this thread.

It's also worth pointing out that thanks to FA's retarded software, you cannot delete comments. You have to nuke the entire journal/submission.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2010, 01:55:00 pm »
It's also worth pointing out that thanks to FA's retarded software, you cannot delete comments. You have to nuke the entire journal/submission.

So, just so I'm clear, you want to give furries the same power over their FA journals to remove criticisms and mockery as they have on livejournal?

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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2010, 11:56:50 am »
So, just so I'm clear, you want to give furries the same power over their FA journals to remove criticisms and mockery as they have on livejournal?

I honestly think the lulz-potential would be increased if comments could be deleted, since their only option is banhammer right now, that tends to get used more quickly than it would otherwise.

But yeah, anyone who doubts that comment deletion would be abused hasn't seen RHJunior's LiveJournal.
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2010, 12:06:58 pm »
So, just so I'm clear, you want to give furries the same power over their FA journals to remove criticisms and mockery as they have on livejournal?

I honestly think the lulz-potential would be increased if comments could be deleted, since their only option is banhammer right now, that tends to get used more quickly than it would otherwise.

It's not that quick. It's a lot slower than it could be, certainly. It's true that it's used a bit arbitrarily, usually if something hits too close to a mod or a mod's buddies, but it's rare that anyone that's turned themselves into a lulzcow can run to a mod and get the meanies banned in minutes. Certainly rarer than you'd expect out of a furry site.

I think as it is now is pretty good, because the mod can just say "Well block them so they can't do it anymore." (Out of laziness if not principle.) That means you can still get your opening salvos off and that it won't magically disappear without the lulzcow being butthurt enough to remove the entire journal/submission.

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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2010, 07:15:32 pm »
So, just so I'm clear, you want to give furries the same power over their FA journals to remove criticisms and mockery as they have on livejournal?

I honestly think the lulz-potential would be increased if comments could be deleted, since their only option is banhammer right now, that tends to get used more quickly than it would otherwise.

But yeah, anyone who doubts that comment deletion would be abused hasn't seen RHJunior's LiveJournal.

Admittedly, that could have a fair deal of lulz potential, given that one would go the page and screencap all of the comments every now and then, which would prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were in fact deleting comments due to the fear of the truth.  And then the target would go into a flying rage when one confronted him/her (or perhaps a being of indeterminate gender, as in the case of a fair deal of furs) with the screencaps of what he/she happened to delete.
Should the worst excesses of the furry fandom perish, the following will be inscribed on the epitaph:

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