Author Topic: Cuprohastes raging mad about... something?  (Read 961 times)

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Cuprohastes raging mad about... something?
« on: June 17, 2010, 11:44:21 pm »
First about pedophilia as it relates to UK law.  Then about cub art being on the server.  Then about Second Life screencaps.  Then just general anger.

In many European countries you can be tried and convicted of being a paedophile for possessing art of the subject,

FA's stance is "Dragoneer isn't in the EU sp he personally doesn't care, fuck the users who are affected, LOL."

I asked if FA could use tags to filter out this stuff and FA's response was "No that requires us to do something."

Inkbunny doesn't allow human or closely human-like art, photos or SL screen-caps. It also lets you filter content out by keyword - or if artists are too stupid to learn to tag, you can ban an artist.

From now on, Inkbunny will be my primary gallery for the following reasons:

Inkbunny does not expose me to liability. FA does
Inkbunny supports higher resolution art than FA
Inkbunny allows me to offer large, highly detailed images for direct download for reasonable amounts of money and/or offer prints. FA Does not.
Inkbunny lets people donate to me. FA Does not.
Inkbunny lets me search by artist or keyword/ FA does... assuming their keywords work.
Inkbunny allows me to have gallery pools instead of jsut throwing everything into one gallery. FA Does not.
Inknunny lets me bulk upload. FA Does not.
Inkbunny will send me a daily e-mail roundup of my account activity - comments, new favourites and watches etc. FA Does not.

Quote from: Dragoneer
That's not true. That's completely not true.

Loli and Shota (aka human porn involving minors) is banned from FA. That includes photos, art, screencaptures, SL, etc. We do not tolerate it, and removed it to support our EU users and due to various rules as well. As for filters, yes, you will see filtering and better tagging/keywording to block out any and all content you don't like on FA later this year.

In no way is this site fucking pro-pedophile at all.

Quote from: Cuprohastes
You allow photos and SL screen caps in general. Inkbunny doesn't. That was just clumsy writing, I meant "they don't allow human or closely human like art, [and additionally] they don't allow [...]" if you see what I mean.
The problem is that you do allow cub porn without any way to filter it out. How am I supposed to look at the front page or the "recent uploads" part if I'm going to end up with thumbnails of Jay Naylor's "It's not an 8 year old being fucked in the ass, honest" work or one of Sarusa's "Here's me pawing off in my diaper" drawings? Or how about the gore and violence stuff? Or just things I don't want to see scrolling past because I don't care about someone's sonic fan-fic.

Answer: I can't. You had the opportunity to do something about this and your response was that you didn't feel it was necessary because "hey half this stuff is illegal and nobody cares, except when the local police turn up and we hand over all the information to them, lol"

So y'know. Tough. The only thing FA has going for it is that there's a large number of people here. Other than that it's old and busted, half the features only "kinda" work and all the new stuff people ask for - like getting e-mail updates, twitter, tag filtering, you go "Eh well no". Well now there's a site that has those and I want to use it and I want people to move across because it needs the user base, and so I'm giving reasons why.

After all, jsut because people get a log in there doesn't mean they'll stop coming here. Especially if you actually implement any of this new UI you've been promising for the last year, assuming it's not just cosmetic, and it actually does something that can compete with Artpiles, Furocity and Inkbunny.

Otherwise you're IBM going "Computers in the home? Preposterous! And who the hell are these Apple guys?"

Quote from: Dragoneer
We don't allow Second Life screencaptures, no.

And honestly, being on a server/service that allows cub porn puts you at risk anyway. Just because you filter it off doesn't make it right. It's like going to a party with drugs, knowing there's drugs, watching people do the drugs, but going "I'll have none of that." You could still be held liable for not reporting it or not leaving.

Having a filter doesn't block illegal content from being illegal or affecting you.

And if you don't like FA, fine, but don't god damn lie about your reasons. Just be upfront. "I like Inkbunny better, here's why." That's all you had to post. But no, you just decided to lie about it, not post the truth...

Quote from: Dragoneer
Sorry I was off looking at Second life screen caps that people had uploaded.

And no, your party anology is invalid. There's paedophilia on the internet. If I don't go looking for it I'm fine. But unlike the internet in general, FA takes pride in saying "YEAH! BRING YOUR CUBFUCKERY AND PUT IT ON THE FRONT PAGE! HEY! WHY DON'T YOU CROP IT DOWN FOR THE THUMBNAIL SO NO ONE CAN TELL UNTIL THEY CLICK?"

I'm here for the art, but you provide no way to filter ANYTHING out apart from "Adult/not adult" and that's not good enough.

Quote from: Dragoneer
I'm sorry, and I know this isn't very admin-like of me, but... really, you're a dick.

I don't give a shit if you stay on FA, go or whatever. You're a dick.

You outright lie about FA, fess up to it... then when somebody calls you out for being a liar and saying nobody will defend you over your bullshit, your response is "Want to bet?".

Seriously.

You're a dick.

Quote from: Cuprohastes
So there is tag filtering and you did ban paedophile art? Because if you didn't, then you're pro-paedophile as a site.
Which is it?
Are you for, or against it? Because there's no neutral ground with this issue. If you allow it, you're approving of it by inaction.

Dude, when Princess Piche is handing you your shit, you should know you've fucked up. 
What if the pentagon has stored lost data of porn and yiff in it's data, has anyone over there saved about millions of porn data and art in it's computer drive? tell me more about the facts what they have in your opinions!