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Furry netsex in the UK may be made illegal
« on: May 18, 2010, 09:24:24 am »
I really hope there's a Viv-esque website out there for making fun of the ridiculous of the UK because things like this are hilarious and disturbing at the same time.

Thread topic from this article on The Register.  The general gist of it involves the 'Obscene Publications Act', which outlaws the publication of CP, BDSM, and other 'extreme fetish' works; and whether IRC and/or other internet-based chat can be considered 'publication'.  How exactly private chats could ever even remotely be considered 'publication' simply by being on the Internet is beyond me, but then again, this is the UK.  At any rate, a hearing is set for early July to determine that question.

I have no idea if the OPA in its current form has been or could be applied to furry fetish works (any Brits on the board want to chime in here?), but given some of the other cases it's been thrown around in, it doesn't seem like much of a stretch of the imagination.

Of course the other fun bit in that article addresses one district judge's interpretation of the OPA in ruling that "whether or not a text or message is construed as threatening will depend not on the intent of the sender – but on how that message is viewed by its recipient."  Which pretty much makes Viv illegal in the UK as well.  Good times, good times.  Anyone have that emote of a crying bulldog in front of the English flag?

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Re: Furry netsex in the UK may be made illegal
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 10:11:07 pm »
UK and the commonwealth have been circling the drain on censorship insanity for years now. I didn't think anything would top the small breast thing from Ausfailia, but damn... this makes China's policies online seem reasonable.
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Re: Furry netsex in the UK may be made illegal
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2010, 07:04:44 pm »
I blame Labour....

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Re: Furry netsex in the UK may be made illegal
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2010, 10:20:07 am »
Speaking as a libertarian, I say the government should stay out of it.

Speaking as a guy... god damn it! It's a fucking website publification. If you hate it so much, surf away. There's a ton of shit that would offend me online, but I don't complain. Why? I don't view it.

Also how in the hell is a pair of folk on a private chat having cybersex possible to prosecute? I mean if it purely between two people in private, the only possible way for them to obtain that type of information is some serious privacy violations, or worse yet, entrapment by a cop posing as some guy or girl online demanding cybersex from strangers.

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Re: Furry netsex in the UK may be made illegal
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2010, 05:05:00 pm »
Speaking as a libertarian

Stop right there. Not every instance of government going to far, or backlash against it can be framed solely as a struggle of your little political circlejerk. Otherwise it's completely superfluous information, and a bit elitist since they probably didn't appoint you a spokesperson. It's kind of like starting off you sentence with 'Speaking as a 4H member'. Good for you, now hush up about it.

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Also how in the hell is a pair of folk on a private chat having cybersex possible to prosecute? I mean if it purely between two people in private, the only possible way for them to obtain that type of information is some serious privacy violations, or worse yet, entrapment by a cop posing as some guy or girl online demanding cybersex from strangers.

You ever watch To Catch A Predator?
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Re: Furry netsex in the UK may be made illegal
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 07:12:18 am »
Also, a lot of private chats aren't really as private as you think they are. Most IM services are probably semi-safe, because the sheer volume of stuff coming through there would make it difficult to track and report, meaning that for those they do indeed have to resort to "To Catch A Predator" style stings.

But things like mu*s, IRC networks, all that? You have no real guarantee of privacy. Mu* environments are probably the worst for that, as really the people with permissions (wizards, ops, whatever that particular place may call them) are basically just on the honor system not to spy on you through any number of methods, and of course anyone with server/root/whatever access can see all the information being passed through the mu* shell. Similarly, everything you send on an IRC network has to pass through the server, so those with access to it can just look and see what people are IMing to each other.

Privacy on the net is a tricky thing, so as usual the best thing to do if you're really worried about something you sent on the internet getting out is to not friggin' send it.

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Re: Furry netsex in the UK may be made illegal
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2010, 05:12:16 pm »
"whether or not a text or message is construed as threatening will depend not on the intent of the sender – but on how that message is viewed by its recipient."
 ???
so all some one has to do is be offended by something and they can take it to court? Id like to know exactly what constitutes an "extreme fetishes",because it seems like they are just asking to flood their courts with frivolous cases. can this law really last? how will this law be implemented?or abused.
 an example :    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRW5igEr7nM&feature=related  (the full story)
or if you wanna cut threw to the message that was "viewed by the recipient" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvGIzj8ibLA&feature=related

 Will their be a way to stop abuse like this? I just get the image of them wasting resources prosecuting every person who's ever had a nasty text conversation.
but i'm probably jumping to conclusions right? i hope they are only going after the fetishes that involve hurting someone or depriving them of their human rights, correct?  Where can i find the article describing this law in full? I'd like to know if I'm being stupid.

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Re: Furry netsex in the UK may be made illegal
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2010, 06:46:21 pm »
I thought it was linked from the Reg article; other than that I don't know.  I guess you could just Google 'uk extreme porn law', just make sure safesearch is turned on.

Also, it -is- the UK legal system, so I certainly can't speak to details about implementation or challenging of the law.

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Re: Furry netsex in the UK may be made illegal
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2010, 09:49:05 pm »
The last bit of that article you posted was even better "a criminal offense if you use Twitter as a "public electronic communications network" to send messages that are "grossly offensive, indecent, obscene, menacing, annoying, inconveniencing or causing needless anxiety"
 :D
looks like they better round up anyone whose ever played on xbox live. shit, are they really willing to prosecute people for being "annoying" on the internet  ;D their court system is going to be flooded!

have you seen this one before? it seems to describe how this whole "burn the porn" mentality got started
 http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2042862_extreme_porn_law_wont_save_lives

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Re: Furry netsex in the UK may be made illegal
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2010, 08:43:06 am »
their court system is going to be flooded!

It is flooded. It's the same legal system that's actively conducting stings to prosecute people for selling goldfish to people under a certain age.

Yes really.

The only explanation I've been able to come up with for their relentless prosecution of piddly shit is that it helps distract from the fact that they're nearly powerless to enforce a lot of their bigger, more important laws.

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Re: Furry netsex in the UK may be made illegal
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2010, 08:47:04 pm »
Furry art is the new "Video Nasty"

I love it.
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