Many dogs who are taken out of dog fuckers homes to have to be put down actually but uh....if they hadn't been used for sex they wouldn't have the behavioral and mental issues that make them unsuitable as pets...uh....durrrrrr? To be honest, the dog is better off put downFriend of mine took in a dog who's owner I had put away and he already had another one abused by a family member of his (who was also arrested)....anyone who says having sex with a dog is consensual and doesn't hurt them needs to be fucked with a three foot spiked dildo...the male dog needs to be muzzled at all times even after 3 years of trainers and kind treatment (if you mistakenly brush the underside of his stomach he starts crying and will shake until he goes nuts and bites everything in reach yelping, it's horrible) and god forbid you touch the female's hind end, she urinates and falls over screaming despite there being no more physical damage (it's been about 2 years now). I hate people.
that male dog I just wrote about, that was a "doing the fucking" case...he's otherwise such a sweet boy at this point who loves people (he was super dominant and aggressive towards people initially, no surprise) but can't go out for walks, isn't allowed to have human contact apart from his owner and a few select guests who can "speak dog" and know how to act around him, it's just sad.physical issues just brush the surface of the abuse, it's the mental ones that make for a dangerous dog and are more harmful over the long run. If you ever need to "convince" someone dog fucking is bad (and you're not there in person to beat the ever living shit out of them" I've found the best route to go is the allergy route. Even if someone's fucked their dog 100s of times they can get a spontaneous allergic reaction to the fluids that sends them into anaphylactic shock and they can die. Not to mention er, sensitive areas blowing up like a bloody red balloons that can be permanently scarred or "broken" for life. Downside of course is it can go the other way around too, with the animal getting the reaction spontaneously.
gay = dog fucker...I hate those people...there is no logic in that argument yet for some reason it always ends up with the sane person arguing with a brick wall that doesn't listen to the science you give them....now, it is comparable to going after kids, they're actually very closely relate, that whole belief the victim is consenting thing. Now, there are people who are wired wrong to lust after kids or animals. What makes them good or bad people is the ability to control it and seek help if they need it. I know a zoophile who would never DARE tough an animal sexually. He is sexually and emotionally attracted to dogs, he loves them and therefore knows how it could damage one if he acted on his impulses. He does not own a dog for this reason and only interacts with dogs when there are other people around, also goes to therapy and is living a happy productive life. While I generally keep my pets away from admitted zoophiles he is permitted to interact with my dog (always supervised even though I know he'd be fine...I'm paranoid)That male dog can't go on walks because he's so sensitive, if the wrong person made the wrong motion he may lunge and being a large dog even muzzled he could do damage which would lead to other problems. He does not like certain types of men (anyone over about 5 10 gets a growl) and requires a very dominant personality in someone female (they need to know what body signals to give him or he'll be very aggressive and pushy). He's surprisingly well mannered with children, not that he's been giving a change to be around them much. All of his and most of the female dog's exercise is done in a fenced yard or on a treadmill. The female can go out on walks with a cart (she pulls this little wagon around, she'll even pull kids, it's adorable) with her frame and harness that makes it near impossibly to accidentally brush her hind end. She's perfectly fine unless you touch anywhere near her tail or grab her muzzle and hold her head (her front teeth were knocked on for...well, use your imagination). She's still got molars and is muzzled in public as well just in case. With with a couple years of careful marker training if you give her an "it's okay" command before you touch her rear area she'll usually still pee in fear but won't scream or bite and she can be harnessed without issue provided your hand doesn't touch her. Children can pet her head and shoulder when she's with her cart and she'll take treats from them (she always gets a treat from her passengers lol).
foreign "material" inside a mare is almost always bad and for some reason it seems that mares can be allergic to anything (I worked with one who was allergic to my saliva, I sneezed on her one time and she broke out in hives...$600 vet bills and tests later we figured out that she was allergic to human saliva and sweat but only when she was in heat WTF). I mean with some competition mares who travel around a lot and show frequently they're actually stitched close to make sure that they don't get things in there since one mistake can take them out of the show ring for months and/or make them sterile which sucks if she's a champion.
Moved this out of the article discussion section, since, y'know, it isn't discussion about an article. Welcome to Vivisector, now get out.
This isn't really going to be useful because dogfuckers are always going to claim that their animals aren't the ones ending up in shelters, that there are abuse cases, and their case isn't an abusive one. If you knew their particular situation they'll say, "you would understand."Anecdotal evidence will be countered with anecdotes.
You can't argue with zoophiles logically. They're only good for mocking. This would be good for convincing regular people, though.
I'm inclined to agree. They have already reasoned it to themselves that it's okay, there's nothing wrong with it and it's the 'haters' who are wrong. The best you can do is socially osterizing such people so they feel rejected from society and maybe hopefully commit suicide.
It's kind of amusing that dogfuckers always go with the "It's consensual." angle. Always arguing that they have the ability to consent and can experience all these human emotions and all this stuff to drag them up to the angle of people. Never really seen one take it the other direction and argue that dogs are just stupid animals and that they can't consent. We eat them for food without consent, which is probably worse than just fucking them. Jeeze, that actually seems an easier route. I think there might be more on the table here than just straight up dogfucking.
