Author Topic: FA Forum Gestapo: Criticism is Thoughtcrime and must be exterminated (Read 6089 times)

Pi · « **on:** July 19, 2009, 09:32:34 pm »

Quote from: Myself, on the FAF

It is impossible to get a straight answer from or hold any form of rational discussion with anyone in an administrative position here.
Pinkuh ignores people over long spans of time, and closes threads without regard for the written rules (It's been said that she follows "special pinkuh rules"). To be honest, the closing threads bothers me a lot, because it is essentially "we will silence any dissenting voices", which is very, very disturbing on many levels.
Dragoneer is more concerned with his own self image and the ability to make outdated wisecracks than the well-being of the website, and anyone paying attention has probably noticed that. When I brought up my grievances with Pinkuh, Dragoneer not only ignored me, but made a lame excuse about why he ignored me -- since it seems that he noticed my privmsg, he should have at least given a dismissal of "I'll look into it", at his first convenience.
This is piss-poor administration. You should feel ashamed of yourselves.

Fellow partner in crime nrr posted this:

Quote from: nrr

Fullquote for great justice and the whole nine yards.
I'll go one step further here by urging Pinkuh to cite one instance where I was genuinely being a dick to a regular user who didn't really end up needing a curt slap upside the head with a clue-by-four.
Better still, cite an instance where I was genuinely being a dick to a chanop who then didn't themselves take action against me.
I'll be waiting right here. (Hint: The count of instances should be zero, especially considering that a majority of my communication there the past few months has literally been "oh" and "ok.")

In a shocking (yet completely predictable, and in fact in support of my point) turn of events, nrr and I are now permanently banned from the FA Forums:

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You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

yes, you heard it here first, attempting to lodge criticism with how FurAffinity is run is now a bannable offense.

From AshMCairo's twitter

Quote from: AshMCairo

Who wants to help bury an article on furryne.ws?

Remember, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

Freehaven · « **Reply #1 on:** July 19, 2009, 11:56:28 pm »

Gee, why am I not shocked in the slightest?

LordNagetiere · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2009, 02:54:33 am »

FAF exists soley for Dragoneer's LotD and egostroking, not the actual operations of FA. Like any useless furry forum though, at least half the moderators will think it's their God given right to enforce ORDER and JUSTICE on the forum, for no other reason than... power = new toy.

Seriously, I point to furry forums each and every time some highschool-aged newb fox states furries should have their own township/state/nation.

ProvincialTwit · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2009, 08:34:52 am »

When you give power to the inherently powerless...well, you get FA. Pinkuh is like furry's own little Kim-Jung Il.

Heh. 'North Furrea'.

Pi · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:14:10 pm »

And in another shocking turn of events, Furry Digg jiggered around with the posting requirements in an effort to flood this story off the front page.

Freehaven · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2009, 04:32:52 pm »

Quote from: Pi on July 20, 2009, 01:14:10 pm

And in another shocking turn of events, Furry Digg jiggered around with the posting requirements in an effort to flood this story off the front page.

Again, this really does not surprise me.

Pi · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2009, 01:21:15 pm »

You find some interesting things browsing the recent pastebin logs:

Quote from: Ash M. Cairo

Subject: 2nd warning
From: "\"The Reverend\" Ash Maurice Cairo" <ashmcairo@gmail.com>

I would prefer not to use anyone's administrator abilities and rather
work with formulas to level the playing field. Currently the system is
being gamed by members of Vivisector and if I could currently I would
make adjustments according as to what would be seen on Digg. Digg
would pick up on the trend of which users vote on what articles from
what domain and weigh them less as needed. The current system we
doesn't readily allow for that without heavily modifying the current
code and I'd like to deviate as little as possible from the Pligg
base. On top of that we're currently trying to find the free time to
update from the Pligg beta to the version 1, so... no coding or
updating just yet unless we get someone else with free time.

So, since this can't we addresses readily as a formula problem, it's
now a user problem. I hate user problems. I really hate it when myself
or another administrator has to step in and be heavy handed about
things because it's not fair to anyone involved but as neither Fur
Affinity nor Vivisector's administration seem to want to work with
each other directly or through a mediator, I think the best choice
would be to simply take furryne.ws out of their sights and disabled
the user accounts of those bringing their personal problems to the
site.

--
"The Reverend" Ash Maurice Cairo
"I kick ass for The Lord!"
twitter.com/AshMCairo
AIM: AshMCairo, ICQ: 1920631, Yahoo!: ashmcairo
Visit http://furryne.ws for the latest in furry news!
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a pigeon · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2009, 02:31:27 pm »

Upon seeing what Pi said about pastebin logs, I went there myself and clicked on the most recent post I saw, which had been made 48 seconds ago when I clicked, and what should I see but this:

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Your first mistake is thinking that the involved users give a shit about vivisector (i am banned there, fwiw). It is merely a vehicle.

Your second mistake is to discount the, in fact very real, possibility that people who up-vote that article actually CARE about the issue presented.

Your third mistake is that you're letting your personal preferences cloud your judgment, leading you so far as to actively lie to me. (Hint, i've seen what you said on twitter.)

What you SHOULD do is this: Be and stay impartial and leave each article an equal chance to have its time in the limelight. But i guess that's too much to expect from a furry.

PS: You can stick your warning where the sun don't shine. Do you actually think I'd be impressed or even intimidated by someone who has so far demonstrated zero administrative integrity?

From anonymous.

I would assume that it is directed at Ash M Cairo, and certainly they have a point about zero administrative integrity.

Pi · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2009, 05:53:21 pm »

During my daily work firefox restart (since it leaks memory like a sieve), my FAF tabs got refreshed. Now, I at least have a listed ban expiration time. Still no reason, no accountability, no notification. I'm going to assume this is due to Cairo's (unwanted) interference unless a better explanation arises.

Quote from: FAF

You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.

Date the ban will be lifted: 07-26-2009, 07:00 PM

Kindrift · « **Reply #9 on:** July 21, 2009, 06:26:19 pm »

pigeon: That's definitely Xenofur in complaint to someone. I've had to deal with three people in the past 24 hours accusing me of banning him. Here's the ban record:

Ban name Notes Reason Added Expires
Xenofur t raix this ban is just a no-post for 3 days. Only one account per person. Noriko doesn't need two. February 02, 2008 Expired / disabled

The restriction was a partial ban, preventing Xenofur from posting and parroting his master.

nrr · « **Reply #10 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:25:18 pm »

Yeah, FA fails at bans. Nothing of value was lost.

Pi · « **Reply #11 on:** July 27, 2009, 12:43:13 am »

In the "100% out of left field" department:

Quote from: Pinkuh

[01:23:49] <Pinkatron> Duo: So it turns out that all this fucking Drama between Pi, Nrr and Eevee and all the shit thats been going on is one gaint fucking publisity stunt becuase Eevee and nrr got roped into coding some shit for Artspots so they are trying to make FA look bad

This is completely fabricated out of thin air. As far as I know, Eevee and Inaki mutually dislike each other. And currently, nrr is working on a project in Factor, which is a language that only beardos from 1980 and some very warped kids can use successfully. Specifically, nothing to do with Artspots. Pinkuh appears to think we form some kind of crew (which I take objection to, but hey).

This conspiracy theory needs no further debunking than an application of occam's razor: I set out to make FA look bad. Hey, there, I said it, and I think it worked.

ProvincialTwit · « **Reply #12 on:** July 27, 2009, 08:48:27 am »

Quote from: Pi on July 27, 2009, 12:43:13 am

This conspiracy theory needs no further debunking than an application of occam's razor: I set out to make FA look bad. Hey, there, I said it, and I think it worked.

Not to put down your efforts but it's not like it takes a whole hell of a lot of effort to make FA look bad.

nrr · « **Reply #13 on:** July 27, 2009, 12:20:16 pm »

Quote from: ProvincialTwit on July 27, 2009, 08:48:27 am

Not to put down your efforts but it's not like it takes a whole hell of a lot of effort to make FA look bad.

Well, no, but it's a testament to Pinkuh's misguided preconceptions about the strength of FA appearance-wise.

Also, no, I'm not trying to recruit for Artspots. Where the hell did she get that idea?

MetropolitanDonut · « **Reply #14 on:** July 28, 2009, 02:17:31 am »

What the fuck is it with furries and conspiracies?

ProvincialTwit · « **Reply #15 on:** July 28, 2009, 03:13:03 am »

Quote from: MetropolitanDonut on July 28, 2009, 02:17:31 am

What the fuck is it with furries and conspiracies?

Well, obviously their own behavior and actions couldn't possibly make them the target of the entire Internet's ire, so there MUST be some evil conspiracy to trick people into not liking them.

SA/PoE/Viv - The Monolithic Anti-furry Conspiracy: Responsible for anything bad to ever happen to a furry ever.

Pi · « **Reply #16 on:** July 29, 2009, 12:01:53 am »

Got on IRC from my fresh new IP address, got banned from the IRC channel, and as another bonus, got klined from furnet twice. Once on my shiny new IP, another time on my main.

[00:56:50] /*/ Irssi: Starting query in furnet with snowpony
[00:57:08] <Pi> look i don't know what pinkuh told you about me but isn't that kind of a ridiculous kline
[00:57:21] <Pi> all it does is add insult to injury
[00:57:35] !wolf.furnet.org *** You are banned from FurNet (Pi Ban)
[00:57:35] /*/ ERROR Closing Link: Pi[coffeehost.tcct.nmt.edu] (User has been banned from FurNet (Pi Ban))

What is it with these people and such severe reaction to questions?

LordNagetiere · « **Reply #17 on:** July 29, 2009, 03:07:05 am »

Given any opportunity, I'll gladly call out FA, Furnation or whatever's leadership for being assclowns, but some part of me can't help but feel this is little more than a stream of conscious "I GOT BANNED AGAIN THIS IS BULLSHIT" thread. Kind of like unintentional trolling.

Pi · « **Reply #18 on:** July 29, 2009, 08:58:17 am »

It's just kind of astounding at how hard I get banned for doing so little.

If you show up on IRC and mention having gotten banned, you'll get banned. From the server. For "trolling".

(and yeah, it is bullshit, that is why i am posting about it)

Freehaven · « **Reply #19 on:** July 31, 2009, 02:25:11 am »

Well, it's mostly because furries usually dislike having their decisions criticised. Doubly so if they're in charge of something, even something as meaningless as an IRC channel.