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Can't spell wang without Wan
« on: October 15, 2008, 07:40:51 pm »
Adam Wan / Zaush recently went on a brief trip of loathing to the heights of pretension.  Retrieved from http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/491367/, titled "A Rant About Fans":

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Going through the comments on my previous journal, it seems like a lot of people have titanic amounts of shit-talking to get out of their system. If the high reserve amount I set on a personal item is their new excuse for telling me I'm an arrogant piece of shit, then they probably need REAL issues in their life to be upset about.

Those that think I was selling that sculpture to "make money" are pretty much missing the point. I wanted to generate some cash to get me by until the first paycheck went through at my new job. I set the reserve to a high enough amount that I wouldn't be disappointed to see it go, because I really didn't want to see it go, but I didn't need the money so badly that I'd settle for less. If I showed the sculpture off, and said it wasn't for sale, people would lambaste me for being so egotistical that I wouldn't sell it. The way I see it is, I set the reserve as my own proxy bid, and won my own auction. I'm pretty happy I did.

I admit I can be a little full of myself at times, and need people to put me in my place, but some of the things you people say are obscenely hurtful. Do some of you think I'm not a person, that I'm just a symbol of everything you want to hate in life? It's probably liberating to spout such textual diarrhea at me, either in my submissions, journals, or behind my back in LOL forums. After all, I can't even defend myself or get mad at you without "tarnishing" my image like some kind of politician, so I have no way of winning, right?

This experience has taught me several important things:

Furry fans...
1) are pretty fucking mean when they want to be
2) love free stuff
3) usually don't have any money
4) love you one minute, hate you the next
5) for one reason or another, prefer to be anonymous

To put things into perspective, I don't do furry art for a living. I really shouldn't care much what other people say about me in this fandom, but what I hear doesn't inspire me to keep giving. The primary motivation I have to draw furry art is the enjoyment and enthusiasm others show for what I publicly share, so when I constantly have to roll with the punches, what's the point?

Sparked by a minor failure at auction -- his nude gay dog sculpture failed to meets its $500 reserve -- Wan has posted a pair of journals blaming his fans for refusing to pony up for his art.  Perhaps we can blame this on the downturn of the economy, or a customer base that's grown wary of Wan's loli fetish, but Wan refuses to see it as anything but a snub.  Several comments have blamed him for being unhappy that his sculpture failed to sell, blamed him for setting an unrealistic reserve, and blamed him for not taking $490 when it was offered to him, he's apparently taken this as hate speech.  If there were any more radical insults, they've been deleted and no evidence of them remain.  Meesh's girlfriend with the lukewarm IQ managed to break the tables and yet not get banned, but that's an aside.

Perhaps he's realized his mistake, he's since deleted all the journals and comments related to this incident.  My public request: Wan, don't do this again.  You became the poster child for the furry artist who might be decent if he'd just shut the fuck up.
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Re: Can't spell wang without Wan
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2008, 07:59:55 pm »

    It's honestly kind of suprising nobody bought his uh, sculpture. Only a year ago the dude managed to get 2K MONIES (no literally) for a simple commission that got all blown out of shape, and I was expecting this to be no different.

    At that level of crazy pornographer worship I'm reasonably certain people would probably have paid $10 for snippets of his hilarious goatee.

    I liked the poster or two who basically said "YOU SHOULD JUST GO BACK TO DRAWING KINETA PORN". They had the right sentiment, because the sculpture sucked.
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Re: Can't spell wang without Wan
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2008, 09:39:30 pm »
You know, I figure Wan's probably busy lately, what with banging Keovi up the ass and using that sexual connection to get her to do his bidding -- or whatever the hell he's been doing lately -- but considering that he literally went MONTHS without posting any new art:

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Salon de Citron -- September 1st, 2008 09:35 PM
Jason and Andrew - Page 1 -- May 9th, 2008 06:49 AM

...and it took him four months to post the other two pages of that short "Jason and Andrew" comic, and all the while new artists have been cropping up and both new and old artists have been owning his ass left and right with art that's just as good (if not better) than the small amount of art he's produced within the past year, should it REALLY come as any surprise that people have let him pass out of the spotlight?  And I've seen that sculpture of Zaush that Wan wanted to sell -- it wasn't really all that nice looking, even taking the fact it was amateur sculpture into consideration, so it doesn't surprise me that only one sad furfag wanted to pay nearly 500 bux for it, all things considered.

And Adam.  Dude.  People say REALLY awful shit about me (including myself), and you don't catch me threatening to OMFG LEAVE THE FANDUMB just because someone said I was a dickless wonder who doesn't stand a chance of getting laid without paying for it (well, at least not anymore).  If you're really that bothered by people saying you're an egotistical jerkoff, maybe you should think about WHY they're saying it and find a way to make yourself seem like less of one -- or, y'know, just learn to ignore what people think of you (ESPECIALLY other furries) and quit your bitching, you fucking idiot.

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Re: Can't spell wang without Wan
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2008, 11:57:15 pm »
It took him this long to realize furries are spiteful, penniless hippies who demand free shit and thrive on the anonymity of the Internet?  GG Wan, gg indeed.

I'm not entirely certain that his perceived 'shunning' is due so much to other artists "owning his ass ... with art that's just as good"; merely that other artists have stayed in the limelight by being constant producers of free smut.  Hell, Groat's a godawful artist by any standards, and hasn't had an original idea in years, but he keeps up a presence and people keep giving him money.  How long do you think it would take the fandom fetish subculture to forget about Michelle Light or one of the other Kincaide-level mass-production artists if they just stopped producing art and/or showing up at cons?  Three months?  Six?  What if Doc Conway weren't chair of AC and stopped doing his "Rehashed semi-amusing anecdotes hour" at the cons?  What if 2 gave up his "I say 'fuck' a lot" podcasts?

Aside from being spiteful, penniless hippies who demand free shit and thrive on the anonymity of the Internet, furries as a whole have the biggest combined case of ADD since...well, ever.

Also Freehaven people say shit about you because you really ARE a dickless wonder etc etc and you accept it and self-deprecate because you think it makes you popular, but that's another topic.

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Re: Can't spell wang without Wan
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2008, 10:35:24 am »
Also Freehaven people say shit about you because you really ARE a dickless wonder etc etc and you accept it and self-deprecate because you think it makes you popular

No, actually I do it because if I didn't learn how to make fun of myself, I'd have been an hero years ago.  But enough about me.

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Re: Can't spell wang without Wan
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2008, 04:37:48 pm »
The dick in a happy meal doesn't make you still go off like a bottle rocket?

Eh...

Zaush isn't a newcomer to the acting better-than-thou on the internet, is he? I mean, isn't all of his rehashed gay dalmatian stuff come up after some butthurt about how a female furry screwed in a bad way by refusing to screw him in the good way*?

I thought bidding on your own stuff to raise the price was generally seen as a shitty practice, even if done by proxy to a set amount. Lot's of artists are pretty unabashed by their prices. A reserve might actually have worked out better for him. Unless he just didn't plan to sell it at all.

And I have to say, is it wrong for furries to want something for free when the artist hasn't even drawn a new pose or different species in decade? Really?

Edit: Fun fact, I called him 'Adam Wang' to his face before in an elevator. He didn't correct me.

*rumor, conjecture, probably true(ish)
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Re: Can't spell wang without Wan
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2008, 07:46:35 pm »
The auction in question that started this.

Furry artists who that claim the fans have gone bad and done them wrong have failed to account for what changed.  In the good old days an artist could spill his lunacy out on a LiveJournal, safely hidden from fans browsing the VCL or FurNation.  Today the artist's thoughts are difficult to avoid (if you choose to +watch them) and it's become all too easy to reply to them.  The artists made the mistake of joining a community, one which is open and offers both unlimited adoration and honest criticism.  The fans haven't changed.  They've just gotten closer to the artists, and that makes these new tiny celebrities uncomfortable.
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Re: Can't spell wang without Wan
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2008, 08:51:45 am »
Fellow furry pornographer Miles DF pokes fun at Wan (and most of the commentators don't get it):
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1636717/

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Re: Can't spell wang without Wan
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2008, 01:44:21 am »
On Miles DF's "crisis":

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Submission removal: crisis
Sent By: BijouxDeFoxxe On: October 18th, 2008 12:35

This image was removed because it violates FA's AUP:

Harassment
Images clearly intended to harass or slander other members of the community will not be tolerated.
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Re: Can't spell wang without Wan
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2008, 08:06:00 am »
The auction in question that started this.

Oh god, who would spend that much money on that?!

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Re: Can't spell wang without Wan
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2008, 09:28:47 pm »
    That's fucking IT.

    I officially call for Fagoneer's head on a fucking platter. This is an amazing new low in petty furry bullshit.

    OK, maybe not a new low, but certainly a regression to an earlier state of dumbshit dicklicking.
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Re: Can't spell wang without Wan
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2008, 10:19:32 pm »
Miles reposted the Citra Crisis pic on deviantArt.  And this time his comment makes sure to let people know it's not about the economy.

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Re: Can't spell wang without Wan
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2008, 03:17:33 pm »
The auction in question that started this.

Ewwwwwwww
Was he going for misshapen and creepy?



I never kept up with that $2k commission thing... did he ever finish it? (FA iz down... surprised?)
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