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News Media / Re: Unemployable furry ends own life - StalkingCat dead at 54
« on: December 05, 2012, 08:06:33 am »
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So basically what you are saying is you don't want tattoos...

Pretty much, and while I don't think that there are certain tattoos that are more 'appropriate' than others. Unless tattoos could be easily removed, I wouldn't want them. Some (read: A lot) of people treat Tattoos like a fashion statement, but the thing that they don't realize is that fashion is the single fastest changing thing in society and that 'hip' tattoo or body modification will become passé in a year or two or even a few months... but you'll be stuck with it for life, or at least a very long time.

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News Media / Re: Unemployable furry ends own life - StalkingCat dead at 54
« on: December 01, 2012, 11:17:38 pm »
I can't even fathom as to why anyone would want to do that to their face. I know that some people really believe that they're possessed by some animal spirit, but whenever I looked at this guy (and I've known about him for a long, long time) I just wondered why and what the hell was up with him? Heck, even if I won the Mega Millions with the largest ever jackpot tomorrow and ended up being so rich that I would never need to wipe my own ass ever again I would still not even so much as get a tattoo on my shoulder... even if that tattoo is a perfectly socially acceptable thing (like a national emblem or something).

I'm not gonna mock this guy because it's tragic that he's gone, but I can't say that I'm surprised.

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Scandal! / Re: Scappo tracing dramabomb.
« on: July 29, 2012, 08:24:51 am »
To be honest the whole 'you traced this! Now you suck' is something so pathetic and cheap it's utterly retarded. Even the most professional and talented artists out there use references, photos, live models, props or any other such stuff for their works, and yes, even tracing.

There are more important things to criticize in art than tracing.

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Scandal! / Re: Naylor and Zaush find sexual harassment lulztastic
« on: July 22, 2012, 07:10:30 pm »
Stuff like that is reason why I wouldn't bother myself to look at Naylor's art critically.

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Scandal! / Re: Naylor and Zaush find sexual harassment lulztastic
« on: July 12, 2012, 07:25:15 pm »
I haven't really been on here for a while, and to be honest, I haven't been paying attention to the drama in the furry fandom for a while, but this is something very big. I did notice that Adam Wan's characters tend to be huge, 7 foot tall heavily muscled guys, and their female partners are disproportionately small, but I don't recall any drawings of his character raping them... with the sole exception of that one comic, but I don't know if it can be really called rape or not.

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Scandal! / Re: Naylor and Zaush find sexual harassment lulztastic
« on: July 10, 2012, 05:42:40 pm »
Adam Wan's accused to rape? Can someone give me the info on that? I'm kinda curious.

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Other Topics / Re: Chris Hart's 'how to draw furries'
« on: May 13, 2011, 04:51:36 am »
Oh I'm aware of it, I just chose not to acknowledge it. :p

BTW, if you want popularity in the fandom, you don't even NEED a face, if you draw great dongs, that's all what matters anyways.

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Other Topics / Re: Chris Hart's 'how to draw furries'
« on: May 12, 2011, 06:11:37 pm »
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First you draw a circle,
then you dot the eyes in,
draw a great big dong,
and presto! it's furry!

Actually no. His message basically is 'oh you wanna draw furries! Just draw a human figure with a cartoon animal head and stick a tail on the back'. Given that Chris Hart already has some pretty good books on cartooning, cartooning animals, and anatomy in general, the book seems more like a joke than anything else. I have a feeling that he made his examples set up deliberately for people to copy as their fursonas, so that's the selling point as far as I'm concerned.

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Other Topics / Re: Chris Hart's 'how to draw furries'
« on: May 10, 2011, 07:43:48 am »
Well his book has been released, but I saw some samples on Amazon.com and I figure it's not worth a dime based on the examples he has in it.

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News Media / Re: Who needs a fursuit..
« on: February 06, 2011, 07:04:27 am »
Furries have some weird stuff, but this isn't what I think of when I think of furries. This is what I think of when I think psychotic nutjubs who're going on a rampage to kill a whole lot of people and want to rub in the fact that they're out of their minds.

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Other Topics / Re: Chris Hart's 'how to draw furries'
« on: January 24, 2011, 05:37:53 pm »
I think Chris Hart is better than you give him credit for, but I never bought any book he published, I downloaded all of them. The only books on art I bought were two inexpensive (but nonetheless very good) books on drawing still life and general drawing.

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First learn how to draw a human.  Now replace the head with an animal you like / lust after.  Add a tail and you're done.  Its ok if you don't know how to draw people very well.   Furries aren't a very discerning bunch so just increase the breast size and you should be golden.

I sort of figured that from the start, so I was actually a bit surprised that they even needed a dedicated 'furry how-to' book. Most books with guides to fantasy/sci-fi drawing have sections for mutants or animal-based aliens, and let's face it, furries in a setting like that are so cliché that I would be mildly amused if a token cat/dog/whatever race wasn't put in.

When that book comes out, I'm not going to buy it. I have enough books on drawing enough as it is on my PC. I might download it if it comes online, but it's only out of curiosity sake.

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Other Topics / Chris Hart's 'how to draw furries'
« on: January 24, 2011, 02:07:38 pm »
To begin with, I've been learning to draw in general for quite some time, two years actually, and I've been relying on a lot of sources of help me achieve my goals. Interestingly enough, the more I move away from furry in general, the better I seem to get (largely because I'm not using primarily pornography or cheesecake pictures for a model of what I aspire to be able to do). But that being said, I did notice that no matter how many books on drawing I see, I don't believe I ever saw one that was dedicated to drawing furries as we know it. Animals? Of course. Cartoon animals? Plenty. But not one that would mix general human anatomy to realistic degrees with just enough animal figures to make it furry.

Of course then I saw this. http://www.chrishartbooks.com/upcoming.html

Granted it isn't released yet, but the fact that it's being made, and by no other than Christopher Hart, makes me wonder whether he's a hidden furry, out to capitalize on furries or people interested in them, or he is just fed up by the general lack of skill and decided to make a book giving them lessons on how to do it (Jim Hardiman made a few minor 'something to think about' comics several years ago).

What do you guys think?

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Other Topics / Re: More Orangina stuff
« on: September 14, 2010, 01:37:13 pm »
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Nominating this thread for "Worst thread of 2010"
What about the ones the whiner started about his getting banned from FA?

Oh please, please, PLEASE let me win the worst thread of 2010. I never got an award like that before. Most down to earth person, yes, but never as the guy who made... the worst thread of the year.  8)

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Other Topics / Re: More Orangina stuff
« on: September 13, 2010, 08:07:08 pm »
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Oh, the French have had a lot of military success, a more than 50% success rate. I've always found the whole "surrender monkeys" thing to be dumb. I mean sure, it's an easy joke, but a stupid one. Fact is, their military was so decimated by the Germans in WWII, that surrender was the best option at that point to minimize further destruction and death - and they fought going all the way down.  Don't forget the French Resistance either.

And don't forget the Free French forces, World War 1 (The French technically won that war, being a part of the allies. And their soldiers fought against unbelievable odds and still managed to score big victories against the Germans), and the fact that the French Foreign Legion is consider by some to be as good as the US Marine Corps.

But enough about that.

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But yeah, France is very different with what they stick on TV.  Still a lot of macho-male posturing in the culture, along with other European countries (Greece, Italy)... a Kids in the Hall sketch had one of them obsessing over wanting to see more bare breasts on North American television. "They have breasts on television in Europe!  Because... uh... er... they're... more sophisticated!  Yeah, more sophisticated!"

On the old CYD forum had a link to a bunch of Spanish language cartoons that revolved around a carrot guy (with a butt no less) and a scanty clad rabbit girl that had a habit of showing off her breasts and even once had a full frontal on the show. Her butt was exposed constantly I think. They were on a small island trying to escape by calling for help from people passing by. Again, this stuff just shows different standards, and I think that's a GOOD thing since it would be boring if all TV in all countries stuck to the same formula.

I grew up in the Middle East, and Anime was popular there long before it hit North America and Europe. As a kid, I saw just about every kind of Anime in existence (not just the action-adventure type or mecha that's most associated with the genre in North America) and I saw it as just another way to make cartoons. This is the reason why I turn up an eyebrow when I see people complaining about the 'weirdness' of anime when those animes they watched are, in fact, employing a LOT of general anime cliches and aren't in any way original in their Japanese context.

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Other Topics / Re: More Orangina stuff
« on: September 12, 2010, 02:19:39 pm »
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The pre-furry Orangina commercials all revolved around humor and were popular, I bet they're just trying to go back in that direction.

And at least one of them was HIGHLY sexualized. I'm referring to the one where girls in bikinis are dancing and making 'music' with their butts for a short while until they announce that Orangina is the product they're advertising.

Again, this is a French thing. I've been to France as a 14 year old and I saw a commercial back in 1998 that showed a topless woman in a Kellogg's commercial.

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Other Topics / More Orangina stuff
« on: September 10, 2010, 08:46:13 am »
Everyone here knows about the original Orangina commercial. An especially long commercial with a big song and dance sequence of a bear with an 'Adam' leaf covering him, a bikini clad deer, zebras in monokinis who get their vagina's slapped by said bear during a slide underneath them, and of course a panda girl getting her dress ripped off (though you'd swear it was a bikini to begin with).

They later had some newer commercials that showed the furries in a less than directly sexual role (in some cases) but still had fun with them. Now there's these ones that are only a few months old.

http://www.youtube.com/user/orangina#p/a

With the sole exception of the cougar shaving (which towards the end becomes obvious that he's gay and that guy is his partner) there's very little in terms of sexuality or innuendo that marked the other orangina commercials. I say that because it seems unusual that the shift from either sex jokes (the original commercial, or the giraffe skater following the butt of some other guy), or animal jokes, like the laughing hyena, to a rather conventional animal mascot use that's been around for a long time.

Again, it seems to me that the whole point of the originals was to catch the attention of the viewers and once they had it, they decided to drop it and play it (for the most part) safe, and the joke seems to be on the drink itself, that somehow it's an aftershave, a deodorant, a milk substitute, a shampoo, and others. That joke might be a bit clever at first, but it gets old very quickly.

 

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Other Topics / Re: e621 is no more
« on: September 10, 2010, 07:56:23 am »
E621.net is back online. I never cared for the drama, just the porn (and occasional clean art when its good enough).

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Other Topics / Re: e621 is no more
« on: August 31, 2010, 07:19:36 am »
And this, my friends, is why I will keep any furry art (however low grade quality it may be) that I draw to myself and not get involved in this 'fandom'.

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Other Topics / Re: Not really that big a deal but...
« on: August 30, 2010, 08:44:25 pm »
Thanks. It's definitely more than the preview that I found on the Blacksad blog. But I don't think its the whole thing since the last three graphic novels had around 55 to 58 pages in total (covers included) and there are only 25 available in the link.

I just skimmed through some of the pages and read even less, but one thing I did notice that was a bit different than the previous novels is that the female characters seem to be more animal like than human. In the last three, particularly the first one, the female characters were practically human women with a touch of make up. In this one, the only thing that's missing from them being typical furries is tails (but tails are rare. One of the few characters who did have a tail was a guy from the second book, and I think they put it in to obscure his butt during a sex scene that Weekly spies on).

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Other Topics / Not really that big a deal but...
« on: August 30, 2010, 06:20:03 pm »
I remember that at one time Blacksad was often brought up as an example of Furry done right (I.E. Compelling characters, good story, great art, lack of perversion, etc), and I also remember I said in late 2009 that there would be a fourth book in the series out. Well it has been out for quite some time, but currently it's available only in French (Which isn't a problem for me since I know that language).

The title is 'L'Enfer, le silence,' which translated directly to 'Hell, the silence' or 'The silence of Hell', and has a cool cover of Blacksad roughed up and apparently unconscious underwater. I haven't been able to get my hands on the whole thing (there's some previews available, but only a few have the dialogue in them) yet, since no downloads are available as of yet (and if I know the internet like I do. It might not be unless translated into English), and I haven't checked my local bookstore to see if they have it (I live in Quebec, and most bookstores have large French novel/graphic novel sections for obvious reasons).

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