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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2013, 06:47:19 am »
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Find something more productive to do with your time than run around pretending to be informed about something that you are not. There are a lot of people who have left staff that well, lets just say there are two sides to every coin out there.

I found that response somewhat disgusting, but that's how FA treats it's users I suppose. Clearly she means "Find something more productive to do than try and help us out, we aren't listening."
Also do they seriously expect people to believe it's luck that the coin lands on the same side every time? Every Ex-Admin has the exact same story to tell, but they are all lying?

More so than that the assertion, per se, is ridiculous. FA/Ferrox Art, LLC is not a trustworthy organization. Historically, they've failed on far too many occasions to deliver on a critical promise or even satisfactorily expound on an issue. This sort of activity from FA has become rather banal, but no one on their side seems particularly concerned about it... or rather, no indication that anyone is concerned has made itself visible to the community as a whole. It's incredibly stupid and self-serving to posit the premise that people are choosing the make up rumors as opposed to do research on the subject when the people with all the answers are -- through all appearances -- withholding them, consciously or otherwise. To be fair to them though, they are a private organization, and a private organization can run itself however it pleases within the confines of the law and entirely irrespective of what their customers think. I say customers because I believe FA is nothing more than a service organization.


This cycle of FA's ineptitude doesn't seem to end. There's a disconcertingly high turnover rate in the staff, no one seems to understand -- or in some cases care -- how to properly fix issues, communication escapes them most of the time, the hierarchy of command is nonsense, the team is headed by the wrong people, and there is a great disconnect between action and promise on all sides of the fence (at least while I was there). If you ask me, the ultimate issue is the leadership which is not going to change for a long time... especially not when people still flock to it like a life-giving medicine. Though, it is a bit fascinating to watch in a sadistic way.


As for Weasyl, I'm very dubious that this will have any lasting effects on their status. Once FA is back in business, I imagine Weasyl will return to baseline or something near it. They just don't offer enough value to justify migration. Right now, it's hard to see them as anything other than FA 2.0. If they want to be taken seriously, they need to differentiate themselves or provide something that FA does not (of which there is plenty). The alternative is to wait until FA dies out, a nebulous possibility. However, they're not entirely positioned to dive off the springboard just yet.

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2013, 07:48:42 am »
With enough sustained effort on the part of those people who would like to see FA gone and enough apathy on the part of FA, I think Weasyl can eventually reach a critical mass - that fenderbender utility is a good example, I am pimping the hell out of that to people where I can. I'm not certain "offering something FA doesn't" makes sense here, because for the majority of users it's not a service organisation - it's just a platform. Nobody picks a platform based on its featureset - it's either a pragmatic choice (I prefer X over Y because my friends all use X) or an ideological one (I prefer X over Y because X's philosophy and ethics are more compatible with my own than Y's).

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2013, 07:39:20 pm »
With enough sustained effort on the part of those people who would like to see FA gone and enough apathy on the part of FA, I think Weasyl can eventually reach a critical mass - that fenderbender utility is a good example, I am pimping the hell out of that to people where I can. I'm not certain "offering something FA doesn't" makes sense here, because for the majority of users it's not a service organisation - it's just a platform. Nobody picks a platform based on its featureset - it's either a pragmatic choice (I prefer X over Y because my friends all use X) or an ideological one (I prefer X over Y because X's philosophy and ethics are more compatible with my own than Y's).

I certainly hope you're right, and I certainly hope Weasyl doesn't follow FA's footsteps.

I may have used "service organization" a bit too loosely or in too great a grand sense. When I said "service" and "providing something FA does not" I did not mean features. Rather, I meant the whole package, all the things associated with using the site and consuming any content found therein. That is what I'm calling the "service", and this service is what differentiates FA and Weasyl (by definition if nothing else). To give examples of things Weasyl could offer that FA does not (purely as an exercise of theory), they could make Weasyl in numerous languages, begin offering micro-loans, cut deals with major companies to offer discount pricing on art supplies, or even start investing animal welfare. It really could be just about anything they think is worthwhile to the site's and/or community's health and interests. Unless I am mistaken, we both share the standpoint that people come to these sites for a multitude of reasons and not just because of which one offers what features.

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2013, 08:15:34 pm »
Okay, yeah, I get you now and we're reading from the same hymnsheet.

Apparently FA went back to normal operation briefly and then went into read-only mode again?

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2013, 08:47:58 pm »
Apparently FA went back to normal operation briefly and then went into read-only mode again?

Our Eastern European "benefactor" does not know how to plan ahead. What else is new.
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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2013, 08:58:45 pm »
Apparently FA went back to normal operation briefly and then went into read-only mode again?
http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/843220-Site-Status-2013-12-16?p=4219237#post4219237
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Two of the hard drives that failed earlier have been replaced and the RAID arrays are being rebuilt.
Because of that FA can not yet handle the full load and has to remain in readonly mode for a while longer.

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2013, 01:00:09 am »
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Two of the hard drives that failed earlier have been replaced and the RAID arrays are being rebuilt.
Because of that FA can not yet handle the full load and has to remain in readonly mode for a while longer.

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You'd think they'd have figured out what happens when you replace RAID drives by now. But no...

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2013, 11:02:31 am »
FA is operating in "reduced-capacity mode" - you can't click the nuke button to clear notifications, but you can click "check all" and then "delete notifications".

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2013, 11:19:21 am »



And as soon as people started using it, it went to shit again. Something tells me the RAID is still rebuilding, but someone decided that having the site "open" and slow as shit is somehow better than having a read-only site that loads fine.

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2013, 11:20:05 am »
FA is operating in "reduced-capacity mode" - you can't click the nuke button to clear notifications, but you can click "check all" and then "delete notifications".

There was a group of people on lulz that wanted to start nuking submissions as soon as the site came back to put load on the servers. Something tells me this is a direct response to that.

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2013, 10:08:01 pm »
I guess this means they watch the lulz site lol.

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2013, 08:11:05 am »
I guess this means they watch the lulz site lol.

That's been known for some time. In the past people have reposted funny/stupid/awful submissions on lulz that broke the AUP in some way, months after the submission was uploaded; the original then vanished within the hour. It's a sort of running joke that posting things on lulz is more effective than a trouble ticket.
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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2013, 04:45:03 am »
I'm about to head to bed but at this moment, Yak is flailing around after changing some MySQL settings, which... wait for it... caused MySQL to crash.

http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/867077-Server-restart-on-Fri-2013-12-20

I don't know WHY people doubt his Superior Administration Talents when just days after the site returns from a week+ long outage, he knocks the site offline for more than an hour changing settings live in production.

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #53 on: December 22, 2013, 03:47:59 am »
After figuring out a way to get rid of them two years ago, the "Submission has been deleted by the owner" messages have returned to the submission notification page. Presumably, the "fix" to make these go away caused some of the problems.

After absorbing this thread, be sure to head on over to this historic link for some top lol. http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/621439/

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #54 on: December 29, 2013, 04:18:44 am »
This is how Dragoneer dealt with people whose paid-for adverts were affected by the downtime:

Quote from: HowAreYouGentlemen
I was emailed at the beginning of the outage saying that all ad holders would get 10 extra days added to their time. Once the week was over, I felt it was more than a bit unfair to basically get only 3 extra days in exchange for a week out of the holiday season. So I complained, and Neer told me he had already MADE an announcement about a second extension for ads. When I told him I had not seen it and asked for a link, he did not link me to one and then proceeded to send out a mass email explaining how 'a couple (aka me) of people complained and he was extending it again'. Then he bawwed at me for suggesting that he wasn't going to do the right thing in the first place. I told him he was unprofessional and I was taking my business elsewhere.
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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #55 on: December 31, 2013, 02:50:28 pm »
Once again, our "friend" from behind the Iron Curtain has proven that his coding is bringing FA ever closer to its final fate.

Also it appears like Chase is turning Stalinist on FAF.
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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2014, 10:26:39 am »
Stalinist Russia was way better run than this clusterfuck.

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2014, 12:35:57 pm »
http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/907176-2013-rewriting-attempt?p=4352906&viewfull=1#post4352906

There is, apparently, a DIFFERENT recode project going on that Dragoneer approved of back in October. Somehow that "slipped his mind" when allowing Zaush to do the same thing.

Interesting thing here is the recent fundraiser for a "mobile UI". Why bother when you have two recode projects going on??

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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2014, 01:25:22 pm »
I'd love to see people defend Dragoneer as not being an incompetent owner at this point.

He approved two COMPLETE REWRITES, in a three month period, to two completely different groups of people and the site mentioned NEITHER of them officially.


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Re: [THE CREATURE STIRS] or "A rare FA code update"
« Reply #59 on: January 01, 2014, 01:41:57 pm »
At the risk of stating the obvious, Dragoneer is basically just clinging to FA because it allows him to feel important and powerful. Like, imagine dragoneer without FA. He's one of the most boring, generic furries you could possibly imagine, but because he owns FA, he gets to feel like a celebrity. Everything he does at the helm basically telegraphs that he wants all of the fame and none of the responsibility, while at the same time keeping anyone away from touching his popularity gravy train out of fear that he'll be upstaged and lose the spotlight.

I would say it's funny, but really, it's too boring to be funny. So it's just kind of sad.