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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2011, 06:46:23 pm »
NO PRICE IS TOO GREAT TO LIVE 10 MINUTES FROM HIS PRECIOUS SERVERS

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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2011, 02:56:01 pm »
I have to lol at the idea that this is the way to teach _anyone_ financial responsibility. That is- to pay for their rent in an overpriced yuppie-infested real estate market, thus freeing up their salary from a job they're really not qualified for to pay for constant pointless consumption. Something tells me that this isn't a new thing with Piche and his parents, and that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, in a manner of speaking. I understand helping out a fresh-out-of-college or whatever kid with _some_ expenses, though certainly not all of a big one like rent, but Piche is closing in on 30 and at best has a throwaway degree in animation or something and is putting forth a good effort to get fired from a cushy contracting job.

That's not teaching anyone anything. That's subsidizing failure. At least make him live in yer basement, ferchrissakes.

Of course, it's all unverified but it would explain a hell of a lot about how he values money.
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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2011, 03:32:17 am »
Aaaand...
Hey guys.
I've stepped down from FA's mainsite staff, at least for a while. Whilst I'm not having any hardship or anything, I'm finding that after attending to everything else I need to get done for the day, I just don't have enough time to come to FA and deal with trouble tickets.

Just letting you know here, so... well, I don't know... so you know it's of my own volition? Anyway... yeah. I'll still be here, just not an admin.

See y'all 'round.

How many does this make, now?

...and yet this oversized krautchild still has time to post incognito on Lulz. How amusing.

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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2011, 01:10:04 pm »
Sciggles posted a journal about this, just today (and swiftly deleted it):

Quote from: Sciggles
She leaked info to ED, Vivisector and other places while still being an admin. While sitting at the same table as Dragoneer and I at the Delaware Furbowl and FA:U staff meeting she smiled and acted cute and like our friend as if nothing ever happened. She hid what she did, yet still pretended to be our friend after stabbing us in the back..


WHY WOULD SHE DO SUCH A THING!? Because she didn't like that Neer didn't agree with her on a certain subject. So she had to get back at us some how.

But as you know I am all about sharing the truth. Now she is playing the victim card because she got kicked off staff for FA:U (which I admit I had a big hand in making sure that happened) I don't feel she deserves the honor of being on staff, and even then, if something happened that she didn't agree with would she go running to leak more private things?

"Sciggles why you bein such a bitch" Because I am mad...simple as that. There is no fixing this friendship. Its done and gone. Neer is a mess over it. He doesn't know WHO he can trust now. He can't draw, he's depressed and I HATE seeing him like this...NOTHING I do can cheer him up because he really considered her a friend.

But lets all go give Witchie a hug because obviously SHE is the victim here.

Witchie apparently made this public when she was removed but took the journal down after 5-10 minutes. She openly admits to what she did :) so if you need proof? Just ask her or Neer

"the honour of being on staff" good God.

After the deletion, she posted this:

Quote from: Sciggles
Dragoneer spoke with me and said that last journal went a bit too far and I was in fact breaking the rules and needed to remove it :X

Sorry guys! Just thought I would clarify things, but I can see where I went to far.

Wont happen again!

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2325572/

This was Witchiebunny's response, on Furrydrama_2:

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Well she's got some of her facts wrong.

I went to Viv after I quit and posted the logs, and took them down before I came back on as admin. And I went to Viv and ONLY viv. But beyond that, yeah I did it. (oh, and let's be frank? I did it because Dragoneer fucking threatened the positions of the admins speaking out against the inactive admin debacle, called Arshes a cunt in private conversation with me THEN tried to coerce me into changing my journal about stepping down so no one would think he was to blame. and YES, I still have those logs.)

Dragoneer confronted me and I was upfront and honest about it and the agreement was that we would keep it private, because we both just wanted to move past it. I went and told my friends, the ones who were closest to me, about what happened, and dealt with their judgments as it went.

I never, EVER posted a public journal about it because quite honestly, I didn't want the drama. And I've left Dragoneer (and by extension, Sciggles) alone because I didn't want to deal with it. I've got my life after all.

But hey, if Sciggles wants to tell everyone I'm claiming to be the victim (because of course, acknowledging that I've got to deal with the consequences of this and that nothing I could ever do or say could erase or make up for it) that's fine. I'm more annoyed that she's being allowed to get away with another harassing journal than anything else.

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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2011, 01:24:08 pm »
Just a note: Sciggles didn't delete it.

Around the time Dragoneer was yelling at her to delete it, I managed to get ahold of an admin and it was deleted by them.

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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2011, 01:29:04 pm »
Damn, I need a whole new tub of popcorn. This is getting good.

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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2011, 03:23:12 pm »
Witchie's long reply.

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So, the tl;dr version of events:

Let's rewind back to February, when we had an issue with inactive admins. Arshes had posted a journal on FAF about the issue, and I chimed in, agreeing. It took a day or so for Dragoneer to notice it, but when he did, he came into the FA admin chat on IRC and began to complain about it. Pinkuh, (who stays/stayed in the chat due to being a former admin and on leave because of her pregnancy) asked Neer what he was going to do about the issue. Dragoneer gave a sob story about his life being such shit at that moment, and Pinkuh stated that he couldn't guilt trip us about it.

Dragoneer took that and went "Oh so now you're guilt tripping me about this?? Well anyone who is caught guilt tripping me on this will be removed as an admin before any of the inactive admins are dealt with. And Pinkuh, what are you doing in here anyway? You're not even an admin, I should kick you out."

Needless to say, we took this as a threat against our positions for speaking up about the issue and Arshes revealed the incident in the FAF thread about the inactive admins. To which Yak (lead tech admin) came in and tried to tell everyone how we were blowing everything out of proportion, how we were twisting the incident in such a way because it served our interests, no one else was there and thus they can't trust our word, etc. etc. This same day, he came to me to complain about Arshes (apparently unaware that I was on her side) and in the process of the conversation, called her a cunt to me, at which point I stopped talking to him on that subject. He later admitted to being drunk for this entire night. The next day, Dragoneer bought knowledge base software and Pi (long time detractor of Dragoneer's and advocate for shaping FA up, security and code wise) called him out on it and was banned. At which point I resigned.

I told Dragoneer that I wasn't going into the deeper reasons why I was resigning, but I did also have school, but that there WERE other issues. He said okay and I deadmined myself. I posted a journal that said "I'm no longer an admin and don't wish to discuss why" and Dragoneer then IM'd me, asking me why I resigned. I told him flat out what he'd done to upset me, and he asked me to change the wording of my journal because it was "being blown up" into a huge thing, which it wasn't. At that time, I was approached by Pi to chat, and I did, with him and the other members of Vivisector.

They asked me if the statements about the threats were true, I said yes, and they asked for the proof and provided me a private forum where I could post the logs, and I did. I also posted a couple I'd saved of some admins being general asses. They stayed up for perhaps a week before I felt bad and pulled them back down, which actually prompted a ban from the vivisector IRC channel from the admins there. A few weeks later, I offered to come back on as an admin, and it was accepted.

NONE of this occurred while I was an admin, and yes I knew that I had done it when hanging out with them. But considering how ashamed I was, I'm surprised they think I would've just sprang up and admitted to it. When Dragoneer confronted me on the issue, I was upfront and honest with him, and about why I did it and I apologized. After some hard talking, he stated he DID believe I had FA's best interests at heart, but that he'd have to tell the staff what I did. I told him NOT to keep me on staff, because after what happened with Ratte, it would be better if I left so that staff cohesion wouldn't be destroyed and so that FA users wouldn't lose faith in their administration making special cases.

So he removed me, but he stated that he still needed me on FAU and said that he would even buy me a drink at FAU because "Sometimes we drink to forget". So I accepted, and a week later was told he no longer trusted me and that I was off staff. I didn't take it well, as I was insulted (one of my rules is NEVER to drag in innocents into an issue I have with a person...his insinuation was that I would violate the privacy of the members of FAU, but as they have nothing to do with why I WAS angry with him and you know, I had stopped that MONTHS ago and I had apologized, I was a bit upset) but I accepted it and hadn't talked to him since.

The starfinder case was passed to Dragoneer by necessity, and it was agreed we'd work together on the issue, but he stopped talking to me about it very quickly. The agreement was that we'd both say I resigned in order to cut down on the Drama, as NEITHER of us really wanted that. I was completely at fault for what I did, I admit it. I made my bed and when it came time, I was and still am willing to lie in it. I just wanted to quietly move on with my life, which is why we both went the "Witchie resigned" route.

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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2011, 07:01:33 pm »
Well fuck, I thought she got banned over this incident.  The more you know.

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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2011, 07:31:12 pm »
It seems to me that Sciggles is really starting to become a manipulative backseat admin and an important part of the FA PR machine, what with all the "Dragoneer is sad because of x  :'(" journals and comments she posts.

The journal she posted made me sick. And Dragoneer's "WELL HEY LOOK I BANNED HER SEE I AM A GOOD ADMIN" response made me laugh. Sciggles attitude as of late is having a negative effect on the site and her and Piche are completely blind to it.

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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2011, 07:59:59 pm »
Something tells me that Sciggles and Selucillia would get along VERY well. ;)

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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2011, 08:38:26 am »
I bet Sciggles holds the pussy hostage until Sean un-bans her. 

How long will that last? 
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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2011, 04:07:06 pm »
I didn't know Dragoneer took a furry porn site/convention so seriously. Geez.

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"Sometimes we drink to forget"

Welp that says a lot about his internal state of mind...

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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2011, 11:05:03 pm »
I bet Sciggles holds the pussy hostage until Sean un-bans her. 

How long will that last?

Roughly 27 hours. She has been unbanned.

Funny, I thought the first Harassment ban lasted at least 3 days...

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Re: FA loses another admin
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2011, 08:06:18 pm »
I bet Sciggles holds the pussy hostage until Sean un-bans her. 

How long will that last?

Roughly 27 hours. She has been unbanned.

Funny, I thought the first Harassment ban lasted at least 3 days...

FA seems to have an inexpertly applied "strike" system, where each subsequent infraction results in long and longer ban times. The first ban typically lasts a day or a few days, although I got banned for a week when I shouted on Sean's page saying how he should grow some balls, even when it was my first infraction.