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Re: I SAW A DOG TODAY: Furryne.ws
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2008, 10:24:52 pm »
Watch as senile oldster Doodles operates as Cairo's right hand man.  See him publish stories about dogs running for mayor, watch as he attempts to crush everything that isn't braindead happy animal trivia:

What if the pentagon has stored lost data of porn and yiff in it's data, has anyone over there saved about millions of porn data and art in it's computer drive? tell me more about the facts what they have in your opinions!

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Re: I SAW A DOG TODAY: Furryne.ws
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2008, 10:26:13 pm »
Furries didn't write the base code.

They modified it. QED. Your remaining argument is irrelevant.

"X is a furry" implies "X is a bad coder"?

Please. Sturgeon's Law and Revelation apply just as much to code furry programmers write as they do to art furries create (as you very well know) and code non-furry programmers write (also something you likely very well know).

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Re: I SAW A DOG TODAY: Furryne.ws
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2008, 11:49:55 pm »
"X is a furry" implies "X is a bad coder"?

Yes. Shut up, you inerudite clod.
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Re: I SAW A DOG TODAY: Furryne.ws
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2008, 12:27:39 am »
"X is a furry" implies "X is a bad coder"?

Please. Sturgeon's Law and Revelation apply just as much to code furry programmers write as they do to art furries create (as you very well know) and code non-furry programmers write (also something you likely very well know).
Implies, yes. There are exceptions to the rule, though.

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Re: I SAW A DOG TODAY: Furryne.ws
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2008, 04:07:55 pm »
Not all furries are bad coders. It's just that being furry and a coder doesn't mean you're qualified to code for a furry site 'just cuz'.
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Re: I SAW A DOG TODAY: Furryne.ws
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2008, 06:03:11 pm »
"X is a furry" implies "X is a bad coder"?

Please. Sturgeon's Law and Revelation apply just as much to code furry programmers write as they do to art furries create (as you very well know) and code non-furry programmers write (also something you likely very well know).
Implies, yes. There are exceptions to the rule, though.

OK, maybe I didn't make my statement clear enough.

Pi's argument, from what I can discern: "A furry wrote some PHP code; therefore, it is insecure and bad code."
I rephrased it into the following bit of predicate logic: P(X)→Q(X), where P(X)≡"A furry wrote code X" and Q(X)≡"Code X is bad", or equivalently, P(X)≡"X is a furry" and Q(X)≡"X is a bad coder/programmer". This covers the literal interpretation of his statement.

My reply to this is the invocation of Sturgeon's Law and Revelation, which are, respectively, "Nothing is always absolutely so," and "90% of everything is crud," meaning that not only does there exist a furry who composes useful and secure website back-end modifications, which covers the formal case, but also that bad coders occur with about the same frequency in the population of non-furries as in the population of furries, which covers the informal case.

These are, of course, just assertions, but so are Pi's statements. I would loooooooove to see hard evidence that furries suck significantly more than non-furries at the relevant skills, but all I have seen are anecdotes; and anecdotal evidence isn't. So:

"X is a furry" implies "X is a bad coder"?

Yes. Shut up, you inerudite clod.

Yeah, about that...

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Re: I SAW A DOG TODAY: Furryne.ws
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2008, 06:39:49 pm »
Fine. Strong correlation.
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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2008, 06:53:12 pm »
Fine. Strong correlation.

OK, you still haven't provided proof that the ratios of suckage to non-suckage are significantly different. Do you have anything more than some carefully chosen examples and a gut feeling?

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« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2008, 12:44:12 am »
Oh my god shut up you pathetic waste of neurons.

It is a proven fact on this and countless other forums that furries ruin everything they touch.  A furry touched some code, and therefore it is ruined.  Now move on already for god's sake.

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« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2008, 04:23:37 am »
Oh my god shut up you pathetic waste of neurons.

Truly, I am touched by your kind words. :D

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It is a proven fact on this and countless other forums that furries ruin everything they touch.  A furry touched some code, and therefore it is ruined.  Now move on already for god's sake.

To the contrary, I do not think that it is a proven fact. It might have a kernel of truth, as many perceptions do, but I think that it is a vacuous truth. (I could go on longer to explain this statement, but I am tired, and I sense that you are presently tiring of this topic, so I will get to the point.)

I suggest that you focus on actions and potential actions instead of on personal qualities. I think it is more accurate to say that furries who are capable of creating and maintaining large furry websites properly often have better things to do with their time and effort. I think that this statement preserves your sentiments on the matter and explains your observations while not proclaiming the unnecessarily abrasive blanket statement of "OMG furries ruin EVERYTHING!"

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Re: I SAW A DOG TODAY: Furryne.ws
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2008, 12:33:39 pm »

    To be a furry and post here you're going to have to hate yourself a lot more (for being a furry). I suggest you get to work on that.
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Re: I SAW A DOG TODAY: Furryne.ws
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2008, 07:45:12 pm »
To the contrary, I do not think that it is a proven fact.

Prove us wrong, then.

Show us ONE thing that a furry has touched that hasn't suffered from some level of utter failure.  (And before you even think to say it, ClubStripes doesn't count because Gideon's work is on there, and Gideon's art ranges from failure to EPIC failure.  So stuff it.)

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« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2008, 11:33:55 pm »
Ugh, what is it with these kinds of idiots thinking that using big words on the Internet makes them somehow superior.

Anyway, back on topic: Furryne.ws is full of ridiculous shit.

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« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2008, 12:25:40 am »
Yeah, nothing I love more than an argument with furries about semantics.
What if the pentagon has stored lost data of porn and yiff in it's data, has anyone over there saved about millions of porn data and art in it's computer drive? tell me more about the facts what they have in your opinions!

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Re: I SAW A DOG TODAY: Furryne.ws
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2008, 02:43:33 am »
Wait, why do furries need their own Digg again?

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« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2008, 03:35:59 am »
Wait, why do furries need their own Digg again?

For the same reason furries needed two or three versions of their own deviantArt -- because THEY JUST DID.

I'm personally waiting for the inevitable furry YouTube, just to see how badly that crashes and burns.

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« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2008, 09:54:22 am »
Wait, why do furries need their own Digg again?

For the same reason they need multiple furry art, story and personals sites: Building a self-sustaining subculture. This way, thin-skinned furries get less exposure to mundane normalcy; furry site-owners get e-points; everyone gets more trainwrecks to watch.

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« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2008, 09:58:35 am »
I'd say "furry livejournal" but a) it practically is already, and b) I've already seen a few smaller attempts.

Also didn't someone already try a 'furry youtube' a while back?  It didn't last very long, but I could swear I remember hearing about it.

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« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2008, 07:26:01 pm »
Also didn't someone already try a 'furry youtube' a while back?  It didn't last very long, but I could swear I remember hearing about it.

"FurTube". Still up. Apparently, viewing videos there requires registration. (It's not really a site in its own right, just a community on Magnify.net.)

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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2008, 09:30:52 am »
Wait, why do furries need their own Digg again?

They don't. I only wanted to setup a quick furry news site during the small void when Flayrah was offline and Dutchfurs stopped updating about a year or so ago. Combine that with a few articles about this new pligg software thing at the time and Solei offer of free hosting and ta-da.
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