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Scandal! / Anthrocon Piss party

« on: October 30, 2009, 05:13:01 pm »

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/973651/

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/rabidrick/

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FA Obsession Collection / Dragoneer is torn over reporting man wanting sexual pics. of 16 yr. old

« on: September 25, 2009, 03:41:31 pm »

Recently, a person who had an account on Furaffinity:

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tora

was outed in a thread on lulz.net as being interested in "self-service" pictures of someone who was under-age. Logs were posted and all that. Furthermore, someone in the thread later revealed them as a sex offender (registered, for molestation of 14 or 15 yr. old boy) and they were banned from Furaffinity. They made an entry on their wikifur page defending themselves:

http:// en.wikifur.com/wiki/TORA
http:// en.wikifur.com/wiki/User:Almightytora/Statement

Where it becomes "interesting" is that someone found a cached pastebin log of Tora and Dragoneer having a discussion. In it, it is revealed that Dragoneer knows that Tora was going after a 16 year old boy on FA, using the note system, hoping to get pictures of him "self-servicing", however, Dragoneer debates whether or not he should actually report Tora to law enforcement and says he will do nothing yet.

Hopefully, he will do the right thing now.

Amino, who Tora refers to, is a person, who (under an FA account of that name) filed a trouble ticket revealing that Tora had a conviction, and who also posted this information to a journal on FA. They were banned for doing so.

Here is the log, most relevant parts bolded (I munged the Email addy with numbers in place of the @):

(note Dragoneer whining about how wikifur sides with drama re FA's wikifur entry & his statement about how he was adamant about cub art)

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:Hliisr9fAMQJ:pastebin.ca/1577336+furaffinity+amino+troll&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Wednesday, September 23, 2009
Daniel Llamas (8:25 PM):  IMPORTANT
Daniel Llamas (8:25 PM):  Please ban the username "amino"
Daniel Llamas (8:26 PM):  I posted a trouble ticket to remove the comments he posted on.
Daniel Llamas (8:26 PM):  He decided to be smart and post about my past.
Preyfar (8:29 PM):  Care to fill me in on you past? Considering FA's stance on such things I'd like to know so I'm aware of how to best take action against him.
Daniel Llamas (8:31 PM):  He posted on my userpage and 3 of my pics about a mistake I made in the past (trusted my ex and he slept with a kid). I was charged with being there (even though I was asleep) and I have to register.
Preyfar (8:31 PM):  When was this?
Daniel Llamas (8:31 PM):  This "amino" goon decided to make sure everyone knows. So, he must know my real name and such.
Daniel Llamas (8:31 PM):  2001
Daniel Llamas (8:32 PM):  Apparently he was banned in August for a week for trying to do the same thing
Daniel Llamas (8:32 PM):  I really don't like it when people spread rumors like that.
Daniel Llamas (8:32 PM):  That is technically against the law what s/he is doing.
Preyfar (8:33 PM):  I'm reading your court case now.
Daniel Llamas (8:33 PM):  Isn't it kinda unfair that someone decides to do that?
Daniel Llamas (8:34 PM):  Luckily, I happened to check FA at work
Preyfar (8:36 PM):  How did you plead at the trial?
Daniel Llamas (8:37 PM):  I had to plead no contest... they wanted to charge me with everything he did too (take pictures, etc).
Preyfar (8:37 PM):  That's what it says you /were/ charged with.
Daniel Llamas (8:37 PM):  The court papers have a lot of falsehoods in there, but I had no say in it.
Preyfar (8:38 PM):  And you're still listed as a pedophile?
Daniel Llamas (8:38 PM):  Registering is a lifetime commitment, 'neer.
Preyfar (8:39 PM):  You understand why I have to ask, correct?
Daniel Llamas (8:39 PM):  If someone talks to me at a con or a meet, I explain to them what happened and how it's not cut throat like it says on the webpage nor the court papers.
Daniel Llamas (8:39 PM):  Yeah I know.
Daniel Llamas (8:40 PM):  FA has been cutting down on certain types of people.
Preyfar (8:40 PM):  I think I remember this case way back when. I ran #maleyiff and banned all minors from the channel because of this.
Daniel Llamas (8:41 PM):  Ah yes.
Preyfar (8:43 PM):  Has this ever come up at cons before? I ask since there are a lot of minors there, etc. I do not know entirely how to handle this.
Daniel Llamas (8:43 PM):  It oddly happens AFTER the con when I hear it from strangers.
Daniel Llamas (8:44 PM):  That so-and-so was mentioning something about me, and I explain the story.
Preyfar (8:44 PM):  I'm sort of conflicted on this.
Daniel Llamas (8:45 PM):  It usually doesn't come up anymore, cuz one would have to know me IRL to pull up that info.
Daniel Llamas (8:45 PM):  You can only pull that info if you know me IRL
Daniel Llamas (8:46 PM):  Fucker
Daniel Llamas (8:46 PM):  He added that to my Wikifur page
Preyfar (8:46 PM):  =/
Preyfar (8:46 PM):  Your best bet would be to track down Greenreaper and explain the situation to him and hope he sides with you.
Preyfar (8:46 PM):  And ask him to protect your entry
Preyfar (8:47 PM):  If he sides with you. =/
Daniel Llamas (8:47 PM):  How do I do that
Preyfar (8:48 PM):  His AIM is GreenReaperLP
Preyfar (8:48 PM):  It's on his FA page.
Preyfar (8:48 PM):  http://www.furaffinity.net/user/greenreaper
Preyfar (8:48 PM):  He owns Wikifur
Preyfar (8:49 PM):  Otherwise, their admins there tend to side with drama (just look at FA's page). Explain to him the situation, how you've been a part of the community... and ask him to remove and protect the entry (and note that if you do it'll look like you're covering it up). I dunno.
Preyfar (8:49 PM):  It's a tricky situation.
Daniel Llamas (8:49 PM):  Ok lemme e-mail him on there. I already deleted the section.
Preyfar (8:50 PM):  greenreaper64564hotmail.com 
Preyfar (8:50 PM):  I've known you for a while, dude... but I have to admit I don't know how I feel about this and I feel really conflicted.
Preyfar (8:52 PM):  With the stance I took on cub art I was /adamant/ about my position. I really don't know how I feel about this, dude.
Daniel Llamas (8:53 PM):  Do you not trust what I am saying or ???
Preyfar (8:53 PM):  I don't know, honestly.
Daniel Llamas (8:55 PM):  I already (and still am) paying for being naive, 'neer.
Daniel Llamas (8:55 PM):  I lost about 5 years of my normal life.
Preyfar (8:56 PM):  How old were you when this happened?
Daniel Llamas (8:56 PM):  25
Daniel Llamas (9:02 PM):  I need to drive home, 'neer. Give me 30 minutes. If you want to talk on cell, we can.
Preyfar (9:06 PM):  When you message people are you being mindful of their DOBs or listed ages?
Daniel Llamas (9:07 PM):  Of course. I always check.
Daniel Llamas (9:07 PM):  (Still driving. BBL.)
Daniel Llamas (9:22 PM):  Ok at home now.
Preyfar (9:23 PM):  Okay, so...
Preyfar (9:23 PM):  Uh.
Daniel Llamas (9:24 PM):  Do you want to talk over the phone? Here? I am being honest with you, as I am with anyone who talks to me in the same aspect.
Daniel Llamas is offline. (9:27 PM)  You can send Daniel Llamas an email
Preyfar (9:27 PM):  We have logs of you talking to xxxpiffxxx... who is a minor. In a conversation between the two of you asking if he can suck himself off.
Daniel Llamas is Available (9:28 PM)
Daniel Llamas (9:29 PM):  Oh? What is his FA name?
Preyfar (9:30 PM):  xxxpiffxxx
Daniel Llamas (9:30 PM):  Let me check that out.
Daniel Llamas (9:30 PM):  According to his user page, it says Age: 19
Preyfar (9:32 PM):  And he was age locked some time ago for being 16.
Daniel Llamas (9:32 PM):  Interesting. He is lying then.
Daniel Llamas (9:33 PM):  And it looks like this user is undoing my Wikifur removals, so I need to delete the pictures in question on my FA page
Daniel Llamas (9:35 PM):  Should I delete the RL pics that this user is using as references?
Preyfar (9:36 PM):  And what about Spiral Wolf?
Daniel Llamas (9:36 PM):  Spiral Wolf?
Preyfar (9:37 PM):  We've got notes of you talking to him about his "yoga" and ability to go down on himself... he admits he's 16 to you via note, and your response was "Don't be afraid to tell me. I won't report ya if you're not "of age" yet." and "Heh... you should just show me. I won't tell. XD"
Daniel Llamas (9:37 PM):  His user page on FA says Age: 18
Preyfar (9:37 PM):  Spiral Wolf: I did find out i could do that but its because
of yoga and Sorry but I cant show u because 1st I'm shy and 2nd if i
did show u and word got out the FBI would be after you sorry. ^^

Preyfar (9:37 PM):  Tora: Oh? How so? Don't be afraid to tell me. I won't report ya if you're not "of age" yet.
Preyfar (9:37 PM):  spiral wolf:
I'm 16
Preyfar (9:37 PM):  Tora:
Okay. Thanks for clarifying. XD
Daniel Llamas (9:37 PM):  His userpage says other wise
Preyfar (9:37 PM):  Per the notes.
Preyfar (9:37 PM):  These are NOTES TO YOU
Preyfar (9:38 PM):  He admit to you by note.
Daniel Llamas (9:38 PM):  Well, he's lying on FA to get around the mature filter
Daniel Llamas (9:39 PM):  And I have noticed my MSN was compromised a few weeks ago... And I do not know if my FA was.
Daniel Llamas (9:40 PM):  Lots of friends I talk to were mentioning I was saying I had a disease or something.
Preyfar (9:40 PM):  I don't know what to think, dude...
Preyfar (9:40 PM):  I really don't.
Preyfar (9:40 PM):  And the rest of the FA staff are not too comfortable.
Daniel Llamas (9:42 PM):  I see. Well, I will need to be more careful in trusting userpages and other issues with people.
Daniel Llamas (9:44 PM):  Now the user "Isopodic" on Wikifur has undone the revision again. Now I know who it is
Preyfar (9:47 PM):  Dude, I'm really sorry... I am, I truly am... but I have to close your account on FA.
Daniel Llamas (9:47 PM):  Why?
Daniel Llamas (9:47 PM):  That's not fair
Preyfar (9:48 PM):  This is REALLY something I do not want to have to do... but I have to.
Daniel Llamas (9:48 PM):  That means you make the <b style="color:black;background-color:#99ff99">troll</b> win
Daniel Llamas (9:48 PM):  Damn it...
Daniel Llamas (9:48 PM):  Neer, can we talk over the phone?
Daniel Llamas (9:48 PM):  Please? I beg of you
Preyfar (9:48 PM):  Dude, we if it were /just/ the conviction that's one thing... but we have notes between you and user where he admits he is 16 and he you are discussing him going down on himself with his "yoga" even *AFTER* he notifies you he is a minor.
Preyfar (9:49 PM):  The entire staff is aware of this.
Daniel Llamas (9:49 PM):  Please delete those RL pics in question then
Preyfar (9:49 PM):  I'll do so.
Daniel Llamas (9:49 PM):  http://www.<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">furaffinity</b>.net/view/447418/
Daniel Llamas (9:49 PM):  http://www.<b style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">furaffinity</b>.net/view/84106/
Daniel Llamas (9:49 PM):  And that one
Daniel Llamas (9:49 PM):  Is there any way my account can be reinstated?
Preyfar (9:50 PM):  I like you, dude... I really do. I don't *WANT* to have to do this... but members of FA staff work in law enforcement, others have jobs in the security and government. There is no way I can verify that information, and I know what I'm reading and I'm not really, REALLY not fucking comfortable with this.
Daniel Llamas (9:50 PM):  I already paid my debt to society and now I'm being punished now?
Preyfar (9:52 PM):  Yes, but you are a convicted pedophile... I know you paid your debt, I know you served time, but dude... those comments...
Preyfar (9:52 PM):  He admit he was 16. You knew he was 16. It states it in the notes, and you persisted about the images of him going down on himself
Preyfar (9:53 PM):  Do you even realize that by law I probably HAVE to report that?
Preyfar (9:53 PM):  I am so fucking torn right now...
Daniel Llamas (9:53 PM):  I see, 'neer
Preyfar (9:53 PM):  This is NOT how I wanted to spend my night.
Preyfar (9:53 PM):  I'm not taking any actions as of yet. I need to think this over.
Daniel Llamas is typing...

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News Media / Furry arrested seeking "kid sex"

« on: May 30, 2009, 04:41:00 am »

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/19604318/detail.html

HARRISBURG, Pa. -- A former member of an Allegheny County state legislator's staff allegedly had computer chats with a teenage boy about dressing in animal costumes and having sex, Pennsylvania Attorney General Tom Corbett said. Alan David Berlin worked in the Senate about a decade, including the last several years with Sen. Jane Orie, R-McCandless, who said Berlin "was immediately and indefinitely suspended" with no pay or benefits when she learned of the allegations.

[...]

Berlin, 40, of Carlisle, allegedly used the chat name "alan_panda_bear" and talked about various sex acts with the teen, including the idea of traveling to Harrisburg and having sex in the boy's back yard while his parents slept, Corbett said.

"Berlin is also accused of attempting to arrange a meeting between the boy and another adult, and offered to get them a hotel room if Berlin could take photos of them having sex," according to the criminal complaint, Corbett said.

The boy's parents contacted authorities after finding sexually graphic messages on his computer, Corbett said.

[...]

Investigators from Corbett's office found a wolf and cat-type costume in Berlin's home, a spokesman said.

http://furrypanda.livejournal.com/profile



google cached pounced advert:

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:1R_Rfmh3IK4J:ww.pounced.org/personals/viewad.php%3F%26hcenc%3D1%26hpad%3D14684+alan_panda_bear&

Now, what I am looking for.

* A babyfur
* Someone who is between the ages of 20 and 25 (we can talk about edging that either direction)

-
Found via lulz.net
http://lulz.net/furi/res/594657.html

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News Media / Security carrying concealed firearms at a furry convention (All Fur Fun)

« on: May 10, 2009, 04:35:41 am »

Via http://lulz.net/furi/res/570324.html,
We may see that a fellow called Sibe was banned from a Furry Convention: http://www.allfurfun.com/.

This was the E-mail he received:

Sibe,

Seldom do I regret my efforts to treat everyone with basic human dignity.

A week ago, I was the lone member of the AFF staff who felt, going into our meeting, that you deserved a chance to come to the con and show that you had turned over a new leaf. Based on your attitude prior to the decision, I managed to convince the rest of the staff that you had likely "turned over a new leaf," as it were, and that everyone deserves the chance to prove it. I considered it a moral victory in your favor that the staff changed their minds, and were willing to consider extending you the olive branch.

In the interim, your behavior on the forum and in private emails have caused our convention staff an incredible amount of stress. Likewise, you have publically advertised things that need not be advertised; by announcing that our security have concealed weapons, you have defeated the purpose of their concealed carry permits. This damages the trust our more pacifist congoers may have of the staff in general. Furthermore, I am greatly dismayed by your choice to push for an open poker tournament. This is against con and hotel policy, and is illegal in the city.

The fact that you are stirring up trouble already proves to me that I was wrong. You clearly have not turned over a new leaf, and I do, indeed, regret my choice to beg, plead and cajole the staff into allowing your attendance. Our artists have expressed dismay at our choice as well, and I see nothing but tention in the forum. Therefore, in order to correct my error, I must insist that you not attend All Fur Fun, either under the name Sibe or any other alias you chose.

It is my hope that you will be able to change your behavior, and someday be able to participate fully in the furry community. Unfortunately, your opportunity to do so will not come at Spokane's convention.

Thank you for your compliance.

Tora Kiyoshi
Co-Chair of All Fur Fun

It was apparently these forum posts which provoked that e-mail:

http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=385
http://forum.allfurfun.com/viewtopic.php?t=386

The head of security:

http://www.allfurfun.com/index.php?p=staff

is the one who routinely carries the gun. He allegedly "likes to punch holes in his walls of his home apartment when he gets angry and brags about keeping his handgun under his pillow."

This is the hotel:

http://www.mirabeauparkhotel.com/

all in all, it looks like some a two-bit convention in not so salubrious surroundings.

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Other Topics / 1997 fanzine: predictions, complaints about FurryFandom [Scans, img heavy]

« on: April 14, 2009, 05:25:16 am »

These scans are from the May 25th 1997 issue of Huzzah: http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Huzzah






For me the highlight is:

"the agenda of using "furry" as a vehicle for deviant sexual liberation is on a collision course with the generally sex negative values of the dominant culture of the United States, and in collisions, the more massive object usually wins.
...
As a cultural conservative, I am rooting for the American Cultural semi to make roadkill out of that certain brand of furry's hopes for gaining acceptable for their deviant sexual practices, and the vacuous, contentless art it produces.
...
In anime Fandom, the  craft of the artist is respected, and if the artist is less than skilled, they will be criticized and urged to improve or step aside.
...
Does it hurt more if the artist can only make sales by catering to the fetishes of the most oleaginous perversity, yet cannot tell a story, or even show a piece that make their parents proud?
...
Originally this fandom was like the other fandoms, in that it it held a deep interest in the out of such pros as Tex Avery, And Churck Jones, Of Jack Bradbury ... and Walt Kelly
...
Limited hedonistic agendas
...
Furry is filled with so called artists who have reached stagnant plateaus and have not improved appreciably in years.
...
Using elite as an insult is an artefact of tired marxist rhetoric"

Remember, this is from 1997; This is part of the history of "furry", so that's why I've scanned it and put it up here.

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News Media / 2Gryphon declaims about new book "Furverts" or: The John Birch Furry Society

« on: April 10, 2009, 01:45:35 pm »

They say that history repeats itself, the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce. However tragedy is too grand; there is only farce here.

Michael Cogliantry is publishing a book which shows the "kinky intimate side of the furry subculture":

http://www.michaelcogliantry.com/index.php?/personal/furverts/

This prompts 2-gryphon to type (note that he refers to furry fandom, rather than subculture):

http://2-gryphon.livejournal.com/209162.html

Furverts
**Warning! Controversial opinion ahead!** (Expect some waah.)

A new book as been released called "Furverts", by Michael Cogliantry. It's all about the "secret" lives of furries where we put on animal suits and fuck each other blue in the face. I'm sure the book will sell pretty well because people who claim to have minds cleaner than the Virgin Mary's pap smears just looooooove to read about people so backward and twisted that they'd rather screw the high school team mascot than one of them. It's meant to be a train wreck. So much so, that the book even includes pictures of people boffing each other in fursuits that are *obviously* nothing a furry would ever wear. I suspect they just paid some poor college kids to pose in some store bought Halloween crap, just for effect.

Since the news of this book has hit the fandom, there has been a lot of bitching and whining. A lot of furs trying to defend the upright and proper character of the furry fandom. A lot of bawling that this book will make us all look bad.

Give me a fucking break.

This is OUR fault. You want the furry fandom to be an all-inclusive sub-culture? Well, here we are, welcome to it. You can't decide one minute that it's okay to tie an animal tail to any random fucking interest that walks up to the door and call it "furry", then, when people start pointing and laughing, stand up and complain that the fruitcakes we openly welcomed in don't represent us. It's ludicrous.

A grown man who just wants to wear diapers, a girl who wants to parade her leather slaves around, a guy who gets an erection from being wrapped in latex, a chick who makes her farm animals fuck her... slap a pair of ears on them and suddenly they're furries. And damn anyone who tells them they're not welcome in our group. Damn anyone who tells them they don't belong. But as soon as the cameras are pointed toward these people and they're fucking and sucking each other for the national media, we throw up our hands and reject them as "just a few weirdos we couldn't manage to keep out." We tell them it's not what furry is about. We say they don't represent us. One minute, it's practically a furry crime to ostracise anyone for any reason, and then next, we're whining that we're misrepresented because of the focus on the creepy bastards that we insisted on openly including.

We can't have it both ways, folks.

The furry fandom has become a catch-all for anyone with interests so weird that no other group will accept them. And it has happened because we don't have the nuts to set a definition to who we are and tell those who don't share our interests to find somewhere else to go. Anyone who knocks on our door, slinging around an erection for child porn or warm cheese mold is welcomed right in because we don't have the balls to say, "Sorry, but this is not who we are!"

The furry fandom is no longer about anthropomorphic animals, cartoon characters or mythical creatures. It's become a place where any crazy fuck on the planet feels entitled to be able to openly express whatever unconventional object or idea drives him to orgasm in his bedroom closet at night. And it has become this way because we invited them in! And it will continue to be this way until we find the responsibility to collectively seperate what is furry from what isn't.

Until then, none of us has any right to whine about bad press. If you don't like the way the furry fandom is portrayed in the media, don't blame the few weirdos they were interviewing because we're the ones who told those wierdos to come to the party.

(The book mentioned appears to be a book of fursuit photographs: http://www.viisualpro.com/viewer.php?f=100314T9W by

This results in some of that old-time navel gazing about furry:

http://2-gryphon.livejournal.com/209162.html?thread=10984202#t10984202

I wish I didn't agree with you, but sadly I do :[

When you let everyone in, the entire thing turns to shit, and then people only become hypocrites by complaining about it afterwards.

I propose a culling of the weirdos, and a return to form: CARTOON, GODDAMN ANIMALS.

http://2-gryphon.livejournal.com/209162.html?thread=10991370#t10991370

I believe that being a furry shouldn't be as simple as saying "I'm a furry". Call me strange, but I think they should actually have an interest in furry things first.

Someone commented about how what 2 was saying sounded like the burned furs:

http://2-gryphon.livejournal.com/209162.html?thread=10990346#t10990346

& 2 responded:

Maybe they were right.

Personally, I don't expect anything to be done about it. I'm just expressing my own feelings on the subject.

Misc. comments by various people which show the general tone:

"I miss the fandom where it was about people who just like anthropomorphic animals. Yeah, porn and sex were some times in there, but these days- the fandom is nothing but porn to me. We had this coming. "

"I used to be a part of the furry fandom a few years ago. I'm ashamed to say it, but this issue you're bringing up was a big part of why I left the furry fandom. I was really into the whole furry thing back when it was all about "anthropomorphic animals, cartoon characters, and mythical creatures". Now lately it's pretty much Anything Goes. I have considered getting back into it, but I'm still a bit hesitant to do so because of some of the people who consider themselves part of the fandom."

"I've lately been accused of being 'elitist' simply because I have said standards. Perhaps I should go the whole hog and tell people "you know, furry isn't about your fetish."

"Seriously? This is the same shit we've been seeing for decades. People see a whole bunch of weirdos in animal costumes and say "They must be fucking in those costumes." And some moron in the fandom says "It must be all these fringe groups that gave them that idea. They must have found out about the queers, the latex, the diapers, the blah blah blah." And it's always blindingly obvious upon examination that no, moron, it's the pictures of sexy animals, and the animal noises, and most of all the animal costumes."

"Perhaps a lot of the problem is coming from what I will call agent provocateurs. Furry is known more and more to the mainstream. Someone sees a show where furry is defined as "people who dress up like animals and have sex." They think it's hysterical, so they go out and purchase a cheap novelty store/Chinese-made fursuit. They go around humping everything in sight going, "Look! I'm a furry!" The myth perpetuates."

""what is your interest in anthropomorphism?" If you can't get a straight answer follow it up with "then what are you here for?" and if their answer does not include even a passing interest in any directly furry-related interest or activity, then they are not furry, not interested in furry and should not be included. Make up an RP character with a good description, and you're in, basically."

I was reading some stuff on some sites about the history of the science-fiction and fantasy fandom/subcultulre(?) in America. They were having navel gazing episodes about "Fandom is a way of life", "Fandom is just a goddamned hobby", conventions and drama over people faking deaths, paedophiles and so on back in the 1930's, except it was a bit slower because they had to do it via letters and fanzines.

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Fuck-Awful Art / Tattoos found on Furaffinity, using the search engine [img heavy]

« on: April 10, 2009, 04:24:43 am »

NSFW work ones:

http://i44.tinypic.com/15cbj28.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/1eq6bs.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2e1wtxz.jpg

I think the pop tarts one is the worst.

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News Media / "End of the Road for FurBuy?"

« on: April 10, 2009, 02:54:59 am »

Time are rough lately, seems everyone is painfully aware of that. Today we're communicating a painful truth to the community and all FurBuy users. The primary financier of FurBuy for the last ten years can no longer afford to continue paying for the site out of their own pocket. FurBuy will officially close on May 15th, 2009 unless the funds can be generated to convert FurBuy into a self-supporting company able to generate the money necessary each month for full hosting.

In the short term this will be facilitated by a number of artists and sellers on FurBuy contributing a portion of the sales from special support auctions over the next few weeks. You do not need to post an auction in order to donate to the cause, nor do you have to have been specially contacted in order to contribute by running a support auction. However, if you're interested in supporting FurBuy's move forward into the next decade, please Contact Us directly. Our short-term goal is to generate one-thousand US dollars in support funds by April 30, 2009 in order to convert FurBuy Internet Systems into an LLC and support the cost of operation for a couple months while the long-term systems are setup. In return we will be offering 12-month Contributing Memberships and a special Early Supporter title to anyone who generates $25 or more of support for the cause. Any support funds sent will also be returned in full should we not be able to generate enough support to meet this goal.

The long-term support model to pay for FurBuy currently involves two strategies: Contributing Memberships and Ad Banners. For years we've considered these options and feared having to implement them, thanks to a very gracious patron we have not had to seriously consider and implement these programs. But times change, so we are planning to sell Contributing Memberships for somewhere between $1-2 per month in 12-month (annual) blocks. These Contributing Memberships will offer users extended features or more use of existing features, while all current features will remain 100% free to all users. The current Ad Banner strategy we're considering is similar to FA's: two left-side "block" ads on the main page for $5/mo and one footer "banner" ad across the whole site and all pages for $10/mo. We're tentatively going to set the cap to a maximum of 16 "block" ads and 8 "footer" ads per month.

This is it for FurBuy. It either begins supporting and paying for itself, or it's the end. This is not an action born of spite or frustration or anger, but an eventuality that has been avoided for many years which has finally become a necessity. If the $1,000 is not raised by April 30, 2009 (or very, very close to that amount with a clear indicator that more will be coming in May) we will be shutting down the system on May 15, 2009. This site was built by the community, for the community, and will now live or die based on community support. It's all up to you now, loyal and talented FurBuy users. If you have any further questions or comments, see our LiveJournal Community or Contact Us. Thanks for your support and consideration all these years, we'd love to continue serving you for years to come.

http://www.furbuy.com/news.shtml

There was an early warning in March:

http://community.livejournal.com/furbuy/26581.html

Recently, around April 2nd, On the livejournal community WTF_FA (which is one of those "snark communities") It seems that Jurran, made some comment about dirty laundry, which resulted in Likeshine responding about how ironic this was given his own:

http://community.livejournal.com/wtf_fa/1177896.html?thread=18589992#t18589992

Jurann deleted his post after likeshine made a comment, however she had a screencap and it seems from a post on lulz.net, the restraining order he mentioned in the post was this (the post dates from 08, the drama from 06):

http://community.livejournal.com/washingtonfurs/41672.html

I have a restraining order against jurann. He was arrested in September 06 for felony level property damage and domestic violence after doing thousands of dollars worth of damage to our house one night when he lost his temper. A chair was thrown through a window. Holes were punched in walls. Our living room/entertainment center was destroyed when he hurled it across the room. He was taken out of the house in handcuffs and underwear, it was just like COPS. I think they let him get pants before he was carted off in the back of the police car, it was pretty nice of them.

Charges were filed, and both myself and the other resident of the house were given restraining orders against Jurann for the period of 1 year. He was also ordered to pay restitution, and plead down to a misdemeanor, eventually all of the charges were bartered away after my husband (the homeowner) passed away due to unrelated complications in October 07. This was not the first time Jurann was arrested for a violent offense, he already lost his 2nd amendment rights in the state of Washington two years back when he pulled a gun on some people he was involved in a car accident with. There was a stabbing incident in Chicago, from what he told me. I'm hazy on the details of all that came before me, what I do know is what happened in my presence.

Flash forward to today at Bellfurs. Lurch asked me aside and *politely* informed me that Jurann had been invited the day earlier. I hold no ill will against Lurch or any of the Bellfurs for this, it's their house, their friends, and their terms. Apparently I am welcome back after the restraining order is up, which incidentally will be the weekend of RainFurrest. Again, I don't blame Lurch or the others for any of this, they were very cool when talking to me about it and I honestly feel bad for (unintentionally) bringing that drama with me. I was told that Jurann wasn't welcome there by other people and thought it was a safe place to visit, had I known he was going I would never have shown up in the first place.

Jurann, in his deleted reply to likeshine stated that the woman making the accusations was a "spiteful backbiting whore" and that this lead to the state dropping the case and the police never handed out a restraining order in the first place.
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Based on Anecdotal evidence, I seem to recall that Furbid had a lot of traffic around 02, 03 but that has steadily fell off, but Furbid hasn't managed to recapture all of that traffic, though it does seem to be more popular than Furbid. Furbid is run by the infamous Sage Nadia and this, perhaps combined with the ascendency of Furaffinity (where artists can reach their audience more directly) lead to it's lack of traffic.

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Other Topics / moogly-guy; popularity and penis

« on: April 02, 2009, 06:40:52 am »

Moogly-Guy has had a thread made about him on those something-awful forums (for which you will need an account to see), the NSFW thread is http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3109533&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

As someone posted in that thread, He posted on the forums about how he had had his penis subincised (cut in half up to the head) [I don't think you will need an account for this]:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3017588&userid=98275

I enjoyed sounding already and read in all of the literature about it that it tended to increase sensations in that regard. Mostly, though, I just liked the way it looked. It's certainly not for everyone, or even very many people at all, but I enjoy the way my junk is.
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Oh, plus there was the whole "having a catheter in for a month and a half" bit. Yeah, that wasn't fun. It was convenient, but it sure wasn't fun.

His furaffinity account, with its complement of journals is here:

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/mooglyguy

He works in the computer game industry, it is so important that you know this that he has mentions this in his profile:

Artist Profile:
I am one of the few fellows who has managed to get into the game industry in a capacity other than a tester. I'm a Software Engineer at an Albany-based game company, and in my time off I get my kicks hanging out with friends and spending more money than I ought to on commissions. Don't hesitate to drop me a line, as I'm always happy to talk to folks.

The current list of games on which I have worked as a software engineer / programmer is:
{snip}

& In Journals:

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/678150/
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/603465/
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/382490/

He has thrown large sums on money around to purchase popularity:

Well, Anthrocon was a pretty epic shindig, if I may say so myself.

Highlights:
- Chilling for the maority of the con with nek0gami, lilglenndoggy , iceman, ganador, bodak , ori ,  and deviox, and finding out that as so-called "famous" people go, they're pretty fucking chilled
- Checking my bank account, expecting a $200-$300 quarterly bonus, finding a $2800 bonus instead
- With the above point in mind, starting in on my reputation as being "that guy who shows up at Anthrocon and throws money around left and right"
- With the above point in mind, seeing my friends' reactions when I came back from the liquor store with several hundred dollars' worth of booze
- Likewise, seeing a couple artists' reactions in Artists' Alley when I went up to them, commissioned a badge, and forked over twice the requested amount with the justification that "their art appears to be worth more than they're charging"
- Likewise, randomly footing the bill for food for parties

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/420593/

His "furry goals for 2009" involve more splash of the cash:

- Attend Anthrocon 2009 as a Supersponsor, with an additional charitable donation of at least $500, preferably $1,000
- Host the second annual "Furs In the Videogame Industry" panel at Anthrocon 2009
- 2, possibly 3 nek0gami commissions
- 1 spunky commission
- 1 purplekecleon commission
- 1 duo  commission
- 1 pinkuh commission
- Appear in one of ganador's Peach Fuzz videos
- Appear in at least one porn flash animation that is not of my own creation

Given the prospective bonuses that I'm looking at for my work on Guitar Hero: World Tour, I'd say that this is certainly all doable.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/618119/

However, he later posted a journal indicating his dissatisfaction about how he doesn't have any fans and doesn't get the respect he deserves:

Fans

Every once in a while, the sorts of things that get a person fans in the furry community really begin to weigh upon my mind, as the iniquity of what is given versus what is gained is quite vast.

I make no secrets about the fact that my line of work lies in video games. In fact, I was a programmer on the Wii version of a little number that you may have heard of called "Guitar Hero: World Tour".

When I stop to think about it, the fact really weighs upon my mind that here I am, having a hand in creating a game series that is rarely not found at a furry gathering of more than ten people or so, and not a soul knows who I am. I spend months of my life, working plentiful overtime, poring over arcane lines of code, subjecting myself to exhaustion for the purposes of creating something that furries and other people will enjoy for weeks or months after it comes out. Still, nobody knows who I am.

I have no fans, I have no people to dote on me, to invite me to fun parties except when invited by my other friends who do. Why? Because my income doesn't come from inked-and-colored dog dicks, that's why. It is a tragedy of the commons that the furries who make things that give other furs weeks or months of pleasure are forgotten about by the masses, who choose instead to fawn on the people who draw something that they'll toss off to once or twice and then forget about.

Why am I writing this journal? I don't know. I guess I just felt it needed to be said.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/583085/

If this is true, he earns a lot of money:

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/640245/

About $80k inc. bonuses, but was it ever more apparant that money cannot buy you happiness or but cupboard love.

This is what someone who apparently went to university with him says:

No good stories from school, sorry. Everyone avoided him, monopolized class time with asinine questions, drew anthro fox heads on the chalkboards. i assume that's normal furry shit. He was my cohort's "that guy" so I wasn't exactly chummy.

The end.