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FA Obsession Collection / FA United Guest of Honour treated badly

« on: February 21, 2014, 04:25:46 am »

Dragoneer has, today, made an announcement, on FA, about his vanity convention and things have fallen rather flat. Firstly, a 2012 Guest of Honour mentioned in the comments about how they were locked out of their hotel room because the convention had forgotten to book their room for Friday to Monday (instead it was Friday to Sunday) and how they were not reimbursed, as promised, for their travel costs and their e-mails were ignored:

Hey FAU, I was a GOH for 2012, while I had fun, I did had some issues (my room was for only Fri to Sun morning instead of Mon morning, and I was locked out of my room Sunday and had to explain to the hotel I was support to have my room for all of Sunday which was..stressful to say the least! While this was fixed with some talking with the hotel staff, it was rather scary when my phone, clothing and personal items where locked in a room I wasn't in control off under my own name..)

What I really want to say is, I had sent a few emails in regards to be reimbursed for travel costs back in 12', mostly that I was cool with swapping the reimbursement costs for my travel from Nashua NH, to Whippany NJ (roughly 4 hours+ NY tolls or about $88 back in 2012) for a Dealer's Table for the following year instead. However I have to this day not been replied to by anyone, I wrote this of as 'eh whatever' and simply not promoted or attended the convention since this.

If anyone would like to reply to me, and talk about this that would be nice, but not really vital, as I've long since written it off and covered the costs myself.

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http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5525902#cid:38753823

And elsewhere in the comments people were not impressed:

Is there an anti-harassment policy at this convention?

Yes. We do not tolerate harassment at the convention. The goal is for everyone to have a fun time, kick back and have a relaxing weekend. Harassment is not tolerated, and we will eject anyone from the hotel who are causing problems.

Will there be any security on site that doesn't answer to FA:U staff, like hotel security or local law enforcement? To be brutally honest, I think potential sponsors should seriously consider whether FA:U-provided security can or will protect them considering the likely political pressures that may be placed on them.

The hotel provides their own security, and if an issue comes up, we will involve them or the local authorities (police) if need be. Attendee safety is paramount to any convention, and we take it very seriously. Many of our security have experience working as police or EMT.

Gonna jump in here real quick as the Sec Director-

Security Staff at FAU don't do politics. We have a strict set of guidelines and procedures that everyone is expected to abide by and enforce regardless of who they're dealing with. If they don't feel they can be objective then they are required to kick it to someone who can. If that means calling in another security staffer, myself, or even the hotel - that's what they are required to do.

I bring several years of law enforcement and private security experience to the table when leading this team; most of whom come from an emergency response, private security, or law enforcement background. I've put in place strict policies to prevent power trips, as well as an even more strict reporting system to make sure all issues hare handled correctly and to the best of our ability.

No one on my security staff have ties to site staff. Their job is specifically to aid in keeping the convention a safe place for every attendee.

If you have any questions or concerns about our ability to keep the convention safe, I encourage you to contact me directly. I can be reached by shooting an email to silver@faunited.org.

What? It's you?? Yeah, stay away, people. Stay far, far away. You are NOT in safe hands with Allstate.

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http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5525902#cid:38750430

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Def wont be going until fA gets its well deserved face-lift and lobotomy.
The con is fun, but god damn.. get your ass in gear already, tired of this shit.

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http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5525902#cid:38750550
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Fix shit and release an update, and then we'll talk.

That's our plan, actually.

Wasn't this your plan like 7 years ago when Ferrox was announced?

Phoenix is a complete reboot, and will take some time. We have some things to discuss on that, and will be making an announcement related to that soon.

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http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5525902#cid:38750613

The good old "We're working on it".

See this is kind of irritating because I feel like with all the hype and shit about project firebird or whatever it was called y'all are just glazing over what needs to be done again. Why not save funds and actually put them into making the site better, skipping one year when y'all already have shit PR and lost at least 1/5th of your users due to some major slip ups is not going to kill you. Especially not if you're going to actually get into gear and start picking shit up around here.

I doubt quite a few people will even want to go with what all has happened, hell there's already comments asking about harassment policies and security. How's this going to look when hardly anyone turns up for this thing and you can't cover your major losses. You can't even cover your losses now.

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http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5525902#cid:38751118

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FA Obsession Collection / FA staff give up on answering trouble tickets

« on: December 07, 2013, 04:48:28 am »

Someone on lulz.net posted this thread:

http://lulz.net/furi/res/2805944.html

w/this picture in:



so that's nearly 5 months of unanswered trouble tickets there. There are currently 20 admins listed on the site staff page and a few more who are not.

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Other Topics / I am a nonbinary trans* individual. My pronouns are he/him/his, it, and burd

« on: November 19, 2013, 03:09:43 pm »

This is an advert on pounced.org, the furry dating site. Someone on lulz.net contacted this person via IM and they are for real. This is a rather extreme example, self proclaimed social justice warrior and all, but it encapsulates some of the current trends in the furry subculture (washing in from tumblr and elsewhere on the net') such as giving yourself lots of labels, "My pronouns", being "non-binary" etc, though as I said, this is a rather extreme example esp. when you factor in otherkin and homestuck.

I'm sure they're just an edgy immature teenager in the end, though, looking to find some identity or community in a hard and largely uncaring world. But there are better more constructive ways of doing that.

I promise to get another photo up soon, as well as a profile pic. Just got back to Connecticut so by the end of the month I should hopefully have this ad more completed.

In the meantime, I have a webcam and can mic or webcam chat on Skype, if you want.

The name is Kusari Kaikou Burd. Not legally yet, but I'm working on that. I've had an account here before a while ago but deleted it and am starting totally fresh.

I'm agender so that means I am a nonbinary trans* individual. My pronouns are he/him/his, it, and burd. I prefer it above all else.

My sexuality is hard to describe but it's something like pansexual and something like Fuck Off Cishets. Only interested in dating fellow queers, trans* beings very much preferred. Don't own a binder yet but my moirail is buying me one soon. CISHET DUDES NEED NOT APPLY, EVER. And if you're an ~ally~ then you can fuck right off as well. I have no need for ~allies~ at all.

Technically I am indeed 21 and have been as such since May 28th. And I would be interested in dating someone between ages 18 and 26.

You can say my species is gryphon, specifically a keythong. Keythong is the term for wingless gryphon with spikes instead of wings. They often have horns but I do not. The things that make up my species are Hagsfiend a Tayra. Hagsfiends are a species from the Guardians of Ga'Hoole book series, and they are a strange mix of crow and owl. So I've got strigiform, mustelid, and corvid as my makeup. Keythong is my Kintype, and I've gotta go back and rework my Fursona. It may end up being a different kind of keythong. I'm thinking meerkat mixed with fiery billed aracari.

The relationship I am in is very open and I'm seeking a new primary partner. I put single not open relationship because I'm not looking for a side interest, I'm seeking a being who will be my front and center partner. The being I'm currently with is wonderful but I don't know if I will be staying with her much longer. Even if I do, I am polyamourous and she is comfortable with me pursuing this. I'm open to dating a monogamous being but I am not limiting myself to that.

I have been a Furry since mid-2009, and I have been Awakened as Otherkin since around 8th or 9th grade. I graduated in 2010 so it's been a real while. Right now I'm not as involved in the Furry community as I used to be but still am part of it. It's just that my Otherkin identity matters to me more AND I don't have much time for Furry stuff lately since joining Tumblr.

Homestuck is my most favorite thing in the whole of forever and I will continue to fixate on it after I'm dead. Currently I own a Megido hoodie bought from the What Pumpkin store but will be getting more stuff later on. Including a Breath hoodie since my God Tier title is Soul of Breath. I have a moirail and he is the best frickin fawks I have ever known or ever will know, so my pale quadrant is occupied. However, I'm looking for a new primary matesprit and am open to getting a kismesis as well.

I also have a huge metaphorical boner for the zodiac. My sun sign is Gemini, moon is Aries, and Rising is Capricorn. Ask if you wanna know the rest.

I have no job currently and I cannot drive, forgive me.

There's nothing REALLY specific that I'm looking for so try me and we'll see where things end up. As long as you are open to getting into Homestuck or like it already, are not cishet, and are either Otherkin or like Otherkin, we're cool.

I'm white. And never refer to me as a person, I prefer to be called a being. Thank you.

My God Tier classpect is Soul of Breath. I'm also a Prospit Dreamer. My Land is called the Land of Lightning and Abyss.

I AM A FEMINIST AND A SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR SO I WILL TOLERATE EXACTLY ZERO BULLSHIT.

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Scandal! / Edited Commision uploads on SoFurry Drama Butthurt

« on: September 05, 2013, 04:19:45 am »

The short of it is, is that there have recently been several cases of commissioners uploading commissioned pictures which they have edited in some way on the SoFurry site (One case simply involved someone adding some text to a reference sheet). A moderator on the site ruled that it was acceptable to upload such pictures to SoFurry and that artists should make it clear to commissioners before hand if they don't want them editing their pictures. He entitled the official journal he made about this matter: Terms of Service and being butthurt.

However, as you probably know, copyright hoo-hah and people being sensitive about their stuff (sometimes even oversensitive) are part and parcel of the furry subculture and such a thing as that is guaranteed to upset members of the community which use the site and make people feel insecure about uploading stuff. Therefore, within hours the decision had been reversed and the site owner Toumal apologized.

I wonder if editing pictures has become more popular of late due to such things as a series of threads on lulz.net where edits of pictures are done (apparently to the great satisfaction of most of the people asking for edits), and the increased ease of sharing edited pictures (compared to say 10 years ago) on furry chan/image-board sites, tumblr and so forth. Indeed, I noted just today that a picture by Zaush was uploaded on FA and within a few minutes(!) someone had made a female character in it into a male one and shared it on lulz.net.

First the original butthurt journal:

https://www.sofurry.com/view/585692

Terms of Service and being butthurt

On why making rules clear is a good idea

Recently we've had a couple of reports come in from artists complaining about their works being edited and then posted on SoFurry. These pictures were commissioned and paid for, and then the commissioner (the customer) has then made some edits of their own and gone on to post the new picture.

Now, I can understand the artists in this case being annoyed, especially if they weren't asked permission. But here's where the important bit is - permission.

As an artist you can lay out the rules of the commission. This can be stuff like what kinds of content you are willing to draw, under what circumstances rejections and alterations can be made, and whether the customer can edit or repost the work and so on.

If you don't state these things, make them clear and get your customer to agree to them, then you are giving them goods that they can do with as they please. So, if they want, they can write all over it and change all the colours and repost it wherever they like - and because you didn't make it clear as part of the deal that that is not OK, there's nothing you can do about it.

Now, that doesn't mean it's cool for people to do that. It's still a dick move if someone pays you for a commission and then messes around with it and doesn't give you the credit you deserve and talk to you about the changes. But, it's also something that can be totally allowed.

So, artists, if you want to be careful with your work, how it's distributed and used and what people can or can not do to it, make sure you get your Terms of Service clear and understood. Otherwise, you're just setting yourself up for a fall.

The two top-rated replies to it:

Wellp.

I am no longer going to use this site and am now pulling down all of my works. I will not support a site that has such bewildering concepts of copyright law. When you pay for a commission, you're not paying for the rights to heavily modify and reuse an image- hell, technically, you don't even have the legal right to repost it.

Whether or not a TOS exists is beyond the point, especially when an online TOS can and HAS been nullified by existing legal constructs. Just as an artist cannot legally get away with denying refunds and never producing the commissioned work, a TOS cannot override existing copyright law. If a TOS is absent, standard copyright law and legalities should stand.

The fact that you guys seem to think otherwise makes me believe that my work is not safe to be posted to this site.

Good day.

N... no... no. When creating a work for a customer, the artist retains rights to the work- that means that it cannot be edited, it can not be 'written all over', nor does it mean they have exclusive or ANY reposting rights unless directly told by the artist. I don't HAVE to say "you are not allowed to edit this work", for it to be un-editable. I have to say "you ARE ALLOWED TO EDIT THIS WORK" all caps, bold, font size 20, impact typeface, underline, doubleunderline, ITALICS- for the customer to be able to actually be allowed to make ANY edits to the piece OR pay anyone else to do so. It is ILLEGAL for them to do so under copyright law. It does not fall under fair use or parody.

Not having it in your TOS does not trump copyright law.

If you're going to run a site that allows for visual artwork to be uploaded, learn the law behind it. An artist CAN DCMA your site, as the content host, to remove the artwork- they should not have to. All they should have to do is ask, because they are the copyright holder, and you should be removing the offending image. An artist, should they care enough about an (apparently really shitty, by evidence of the two mod posts, both journal and comment) furry site, could in fact lawyer up and sue.

Personally, I hope that the artist in question posts an artist_beware post about this site, because I sure as hell do not want to EVER post artwork to this site again, considering the way you treat the artists residing.

Toumal's apology journal:

Our Apologies: Recent copyright issues!

Hey fellow furs, and furry artists!

As many of you heard, there has been an issue with a particular moderation decision. A user posted modified versions of commissions. Our moderator told the artist that he can't ask for the modified artwork to be taken down. Our mods called the artist "butthurt". When I woke up I saw a mushroom cloud from my window.

First off all: We fucked up. We're a team of volunteers strewn across the globe, so a good number of our team was unavailable at that time. But regardless, the end result was the same, and the harsh language from our side simply wasn't neccessary. On top of that our decision was wrong.

Of course a commissioner can usually repost a commission he paid for (unless the artist made him agree to other terms beforehand) - that's what everyone does in the fandom on all the sites out there. It's called joint copyright under US law.

of course a commissioner cannot modify finished artwork and then post the edited version up everywhere, without permission from the artist. That is simply not covered by joint copyright. It's rude.

That's the legal side of things. On top of that, SoFurry is not here for our own amusement and power trips. SoFurry is made and run FOR YOU. For artists, writers and musicians, for furries, for furry-curious people. So with everything we do, we must take into consideration the person who we're doing this for, and that person is you.

It's now early morning for some of the mod team, and even EARLIER morning for others but in light of all this let me just say that we're working on this. Please accept my apologies for the messy situation and everything bad that has been said. We're looking into our staff organization as well, though needless to say we did fail as a team and the point this post is not to put all the blame on individual mods.

Once again, please accept my sincere apologies for that mess. We're not closing any threads or journals about this by the way (unless things get personally insulting, mind you) so please do feel free to discuss this. We're always open for suggestions. You can also PM me if you want, though chat is probably easier. I'll be on the SF chat later today as well.

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https://www.sofurry.com/view/585874

A comment by someone on lulz.net about this:

I oddly agree with the fact that commissioners are entitled to it. Speaking as an artist, it's hardly different from game mods and music remixes.

Other art fields explicitly mention the level of use that you have when purchasing the product.

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http://lulz.net/furi/res/2725464.html

Someone else:

In before Sofurry will be dead by the end of summer comments! But really, while I partially agree, staff probably shouldn't be calling artists butthurt..not a great way to get anyone new on your site after this.

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Scandal! / The alleged frauds of Darius Koopa

« on: June 29, 2013, 03:56:34 pm »

There is a certain fellow:  http://www.furaffinity.net/user/dariuskoopa

who one november (of that name on FA) accuses of being a fraudster. November alleges that Darius Koopa has pretended that his mother has both had lung cancer and  been shot, in order to scam money out of people; the money being spent on attending 20 conventions in 24 months. November went to the trouble of compiling a 53 page .pdf about the matter:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2058149/dmk/fleecingbydmk.pdf

Here is the introduction:

DariusKoopa has been leeching off of the generosity of this fandom for many years and continues to do so. In September, 2012, he claimed that his mother got lung cancer and received chemotherapy as treatment. In May, 2013, he claimed that his mother suffered multiple gunshot wounds in New York City. Both times, he requested donations from the fandom to help with medical bills and to see his mother. Both times, he attended a furry convention during his trip.

You will see a history of his habits which will establish a consistent and recurring pattern of asking for donations.

You will see his motive for making the cancer and shooting claims.

You will see basic medical information about cancer (such as treatment options and survivability rates) and why the alleged lung cancer
diagnosis does not mesh up

You will see pictures that a reasonable person would find highly suspicious for a shooting victim.

You will see how I followed due diligence by giving him every attempt to prove himself right and to prove me wrong.

You will see raw correspondence and how he tried to cover up his claims when confronted.

You will see how his actions seem to defy logic and common sense.

But ultimately, you will see the truth:

DariusKoopa is a fraud, fleecing members of this community by exploiting alleged family emergencies to take advantage of your generosity. cies to take advantage of your generosity.

Also, from livejournal, Darius Koopa allegedly got someone drunk and forced them to have sex with him:

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Weasyl Wankfest / Reactions to Weasyl

« on: April 13, 2013, 06:38:46 pm »

While browsing Furaffinity I came across this journal asking for feedback from the community about the merits of Weasyl (it was not written by a weasyl staff member):

Okay, so is http://www.weasyl.com/ cool or not?

WHY? WHY NOT?

Y'all know I can't think for myself :B

Please advise, thanks.

ALSO, WHY?

ALSO, WHY NOT?

REASONS PLEASE.

And don't forget to mention why. Or why not, if it seems to be the case.

p.s. - give reasons; like, reasons why. Or perhaps maybe reasons why not.

= = = =

EDIT:
1. PRO:
- ORGANIZED FOLDERS
- TAGGING/FILTERS
- STREAMING STUFF

2. CON:
- EXCESSIVE NAVIGATION TO SEE ART OR SERIAL IMAGES (comics)
- COMMENT/COMMUNICATION CLUNKINESS
- AND OKAY, ENOUGH ABOUT THE SQUARE THUMBNAILS (Yes, we all agree it's a bad thing)

Mystery Meat Navigation: "Such interfaces lack a user-centered design, emphasizing aesthetic appearance, white space, and the concealment of relevant information over basic practicality and functionality." - wiki

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/4519124/

There were over 100 comments on the journal: generally, many people were happy with Weasyl being a working website that is "not Furaffinity" and with it having folders &c. but it is clear there is still bread left unbuttered, especially with respect to the thumbnails. It also looks like people are well aware that the community and traffic is the only thing left keeping FA going at this point.

I thought the comment on Weasyl being "not really sure what exactly it is right now" was interesting, especially combined with the comment from a weasyl admin saying that it doesn't cater specifically to furries vs.  the comment that "By now it is clearly a furry site". A selection of comments:

In general the file handling is a bit wonky. From less-than-helpful thumbnails to poor image naming (images are named 1234.Submit.1234.extension). And some convoluted submission setups... 4 different places to put art, depending on who made it, if it's a character, if it's only for friends, oh and here, have a folder or two, sort your own stuff. If it's music or story... Eh put it with the art, I guess, I don't really care, mix and match at will, it's all good.

I think Weasyl is probably the best, but has several functional problems like I mentioned above. Really it's only fault is that it's lacking in community, and it's not really sure what exactly it is right now.

Frankly, It's made by folk who were upset about how FA was made/handled, and they are trying to handle those kinds of problems. Think of it as FA 2.0. I go there and try to be active because the only way it's going to survive is if people actually go there and use it. But I'll confess I won't upload content there until they correct pet peeves I shouldn't be having.

annoying square cropped thumbnails

it's got some shiny features, but i can't stand browsing that site. the forcibly squared thumbnails make the layout look nice but don't really do much for the actual content. it's convenient to generate thumbnails on the fly, but most folks either crop to a closeup of the face or closeup of the genitals, and a lot are wholly unhelpful. i "look" at art a lot less than i do on FA.

I do like the midsized "thumbnails" that FA gives. Big enough to see what the image is at a glance. Yeah, the square thumbnail thing is bonkers. Okay, thanks!

yeah, i mean, it's not a deal breaker or anything, but i never realized how detrimental those actually are until i tried to enjoy an art site that operates solely on square thumbnails.

other than that, the site is fast, has some helpful features, has some pointless/bloated features, uploading is straightforward, etc...

it's true, cropped thumbnails were a bad idea 10 years ago. Still a bad idea now. Having it as a option people can choose to set sounds better than forcing mystery meat navigation.

Seconding with the annoyance at the forced cropped thumbnails, but other than that I like the site. It's got a nice layout (though some areas are a little counter-intuitive--for example I had to dig for a while to find out what a character submission was vs a regular submission). I enjoy how clean it is, and the commission information is....a lot less confusing than the tab that FA recently got up and running again. I'd recommend getting an account there to be available to those who don't like FA or other sites, but I wouldn't use it as my main gallery, personally. Not enough people there yet.

It's got good features, but like some of the other sites lacks the community support to be really central.

I think it's good to have a presence there!

Also, it's distinctly stable and fast; but that might be because it doesn't have a lot of users.

How silly of me; the thumbnails are bigger, which appeals when an artist is highlighting a larger part of their work. It allows for more organization (sections for characters/concepts, subfolders, etc. which allow you to do more than just upload in droves and let people browse your complete oeuvre. The random browsing feature is nice if you like to be surprised (also it can be very -bad- if you don't like what the surprises are). It's a little more friendly to authors but in all honesty text is easy to host.

Also, what I mentioned above -- the stability and speed of the site are nice, especially when FA's getting bogged down.

Weasyl's submission browsing is really clunky and counter-intuitive to me; primary example I have was trying to view a comic that an artist had put all into one folder, but it lacked the ability to just go from one page to the next, instead insisting on showing me random other pages within the folder. There might be a way to toggle that but frankly I haven't bothered looking.

Some people used to dislike that Weasyl would lump artistic nudes and porn images together on their rating scale, but they recently fixed that? So perhaps the admins are more responsive to complaints over there.

For me, though, there's just not enough user base for me to jump ship or even keep a mirror.

I have had difficulty determining when I have received a reply, since they are either will not be listed or break the chronological order of the comment list. Somebody posting a stream notice contributes to the same total as a new page watch, which would probably be highly irritating if I logged in there more.
There is yet no way to conceal whose pages I watch and who watches mine from public view, though the point totals can thankfully be hidden.

CONTENT FILTERS. I wish FA had them!!! I seriously don't want to see everyone's specific, wacky, gross fetish so I just block them and then I don't see them yaaaay! Also you get to make this AWESOME custom banner. I like the layout! I just wish more art & artists were active there. Honestly if anything happened to FA I'd switch over without issue. FA is more active, which is sort of unfortunate - I honestly wish there was more activity over on Weasyl to justify a full move.

I don't think I'm going to leave FA until either FA goes down for good or the place becomes a ghost town because something truly better came along. I'm hearing some rather 'meh' reviews of Weasyl after the "mass exodus" that occurred a few months ago, and seeing as how a few people have actually come back to use their FA accounts again, Weasyl probably is just going to become another SoFurry.

Among the biggest complaints I've heard (keep in mind, I haven't used the art site myself):

(1) Lack of Community. Most artists I've heard from lament the fact that Weasyl does not have connected community features like FA does. Instead of forming a web of interconnected pages through favorites, comments, and the like, stuff seems all detached and buried under a lot of clicks. Galleries are treated more like personal, solitary things that happen to be public, rather than FA's seemingly inherent concept of putting art up on a public forum.

(2) Journals are treated as submissions.


Some things I've heard in Weasyl's favor:

(1) Much better organized than FA with a more robust tagging system and Gallery folders.

The whys:

Awesome administrative team, cool uploading system, runs fast, is actually coded well, many promising additional features in the works.

The why nots:

Many features still not in place yet, the "Collections" system seems to confuse people, only a fraction of the audience of FA (at least right now).

There isn't much in way of exposure for people who don't have scads of fans to take with them to another site. Favorites aren't readily visible, for one thing, so the fluid browsing experience I get here and on dA (surfing new artists AND their favorites for further artists from the same place: the individual profile page) doesn't happen. I also thought I'd like the square icons but I really don't. It'll be interesting to see how they continue to develop the site, but right now, it's useless in terms of exposure for me.

I personally feel like everyone has stockholm syndrome towards FA; people like what they know, you know? I think Weasyl does everything FA does but better, and were they introduced simultaneously (rather than FA having many years head start), Weasyl would stamp out FA in a heartbeat.

I wouldn't let a thumbnail issue be the deciding factor as many people are doing lately.
Weasyl is bringing loads of functions to the artist that aren't available on FA. Such as detailed and well organized commission info, series/comic oriented organization, character/profile management system (like profile pics for characters giving info in a convenient way).
Theres loads more too. This is also in early beta so you can expect more to come as well as changes from community feedback (perhaps a change in thumbnails?).

The biggest benefit in my opinion would be leaving FA.

I like it pretty well. I feel like it's well ahead of FA, and I haven't had many of the problems people are listing. I dunno. I just wish FA would go away. It sucks that people are like, "It's the trailer park of art sites, but I don't mind the roaches enough to go somewhere better." I'm frankly ready to leave, but the truth of the matter is that no one has established a music scene on the other sites. I've thought about doing it myself, but I don't trust myself with organize people. I gave it a small try on InkBunny, but I lack the focus and perseverance to pull it off.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, speaking of music, one thing I LOVE about weasyl is that you can link your music from bandcamp and soundcloud! Which means, if I release an album, I can stream it through weasyl instead of making a preview file and linking to the album in the artist's comments section. That alone is super useful, as a musician.

The fact of the matter is that it's in beta, and all of these problems need to be directed to the beta staff who are dedicated to improving the site before official launch. Perhaps you should just wait until then :3

+ Organized (submissions), good commission info options, has a trades/commissions/requests setting that shows off the bat, layout adapts to your window size surprisingly well.

/ Character pages are interesting but not exactly necessary. I'd rather commission info be something under a tab so it isn't dominating your entire page along the side. Redundant buttons (go to gallery, submissions - both very close to each other)

- Cluttered, Hard to navigate, not many people, hard to communicate, square thumbnails (dead horse), you have to actively dig to find new artists which makes it into a chore to view art. Entire website is sort of tedious.

at least one person assured me that despite the title, the mascot, and the front page containing furry art exclusively, weasyl was not a "furry" site. By now it is clearly a furry site.

I'm an admin you should join. :3c :3c :3c :3c :3c :3c :3c

Haha, but honestly, we're still in beta. We work to try to implement good ideas to improve the site (we recently added a fourth rating system to separate sexual 18+ art from things like artistic nudes). However, the community is still mostly here at FA, and Weasyl doesn't cater specifically to the furry fandom; we just happen to attract much of the community because a lot of staff are in the fandom.

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FA Obsession Collection / Furaffinity leaks - An Ex-Admin speaks out about the terrible state of FA

« on: April 08, 2013, 03:45:38 pm »

Simbathelion was an admin on Furaffinity for several months. Before he became an admin he dismissed  criticism of Furaffinity, however after becoming an admin he realized that a lot of what is said is "very true". As a result he has spoken out about FA:

http://furaffinityleaks.blogspot.co.uk/

TL:DR:

1. Dragoneer re-admin'ed the terrible chase and lied to the userbase about it.

2. Sciggles is completely lacking in the qualities needed to be a lead admin and has no idea what she is doing, linking people to non-existent wiki pages &c.

3. Yak is always too busy playing computer games to do any work on the FA code. Dragoneer kicked the coders with free time off the staff in a fit of paranoia because he thought they were leaking logs.

4. Dragoneer complains about the state of FA, how it is causing him stress &c. but does nothing to fix things and just rattles off the same old "we're working on it".

You might be aware of all this already, but this is someone who was recently an FA admin, therefore there is more weight than usual behind their criticisms. In addition it shows how nothing has changed at FA and raises questions over whether or not Dragoneer will squander the huge donations of money and hardware so recently taken from the userbase.

Here is a digest of the blog:

Chase used to be an FA admin, before being dismissed for throwing his weight around and being a terrible admin.

Dragoneer decided to allow Chase back on the admin team and chose to lie to the FA users over it:

04:55] <~Dragoneer> Chase may have had a rocky past previously, but he was a good admin. We're still on great terms. He's basically going to be coming in to help with harassment tickets (and only harassment).
[04:55] <~Dragoneer> Kitashi: He and I got into a fight.
[04:55] <&Kitashi> Ah :x
06[04:55] * @Hendikins twitches
[04:56] <~Dragoneer> Hendikins: ?
[04:56] <@Hendikins> I'm just thinking PR.
[04:56] <~Dragoneer> Again, hence with all admin accounts, why he's on an alt and it's on the downlow. If it comes out, we'll announce it.

Dragoneer ignored the objections of the other staff:

[02:12] <@Hendikins> When we've got a glut of staff, bring somebody else in is a slap in the face.
[02:12] <@Hendikins> Particularly when it is done without consulting the team.

Sciggles is lacking in the qualities needed to be a lead admin:

"When we new admins were brought on, we got the number of tickets down from about 16 pages (100 per page) to 3 pages. Sciggles had an obviously splendid idea of decided to split everyone into "specialist groups" and then saying training was required for said groups! I've got around 8 years of experience as a mod/admin dealing with harassment, so naturally I went into that group. Sciggles then informed me we would have a Skype chat for her to "train" me. She was late. Not only was she late, but when she arrived she had the following to say:

<Sciggles> It looks like it was pulled offline last night so Neer is trying to poke Net-cat to get it back on. That had all the information I was going to give to you on how we handled certain issues. If you had any questions or anything or think something should have been added to it that wasn't was basically what we were going to go through.

By "it", she's referring to a Wiki page with "FA harassment guidelines". She then proceeded to wall of text me with a lot of very generic information I knew within a month of my 8 years doing this stuff.

[...]

I don't think Sciggles is inherently a bad person, but I do strongly think (and the evidence shows) that administrative qualities are lacking. I'm sorry for those of you who have tickets open from months ago (there are 100+ if not 200+ of these)."

The FA coding crisis:

"[17:47] <@Summercat> One of the biggest complaints we have is that we don't have enough coding staff to deal with issues. We have talent onboard already, but we are not using them.
01[17:48] <@SimbaTheLion> Yeah, that seems a bit nuts - I work as a software engineer as my full time job and Kitashi and a few others here also are very techincal.
01[17:48] <@SimbaTheLion> technical*
[17:48] <&Kitashi> I've been trying to change how we do things so we can actually make use of people who have technical experience
[17:48] <@Summercat> I want to start bashing peoples faces in for talking shit about how we treat other coders, but god damn if I don't have that wiggling doubt that they might be right, regardless of Eevee/Crpyto being giant douches.

[...]

You see the people in this chat? The people who actually wanted to get something done and not just give empty promises of "oh it'll be ready on Monday"? Kitashi, me, Hendikins, Summercat. None of us are admins anymore. The very people who had the time, the ability and the skills to sort things out."

Dragoneer:

"I've saved Dragoneer until last for a reason. He owns the site. As you can see from the log just above - he could have helped us, he could have saved FA. He chose not to. Yak did not get the kick up the arse he needed to utilise the talent FA had just waiting to go. Sciggles never received training to be able to administrate efficiently and upset other people pretending to do so. Chase - well. Chase was allowed back on staff, because Dragoneer "trusts him"."

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Scandal! / Bad Dragon bad PR on twitter or "Rubber dog vagina maker in misogyny row"

« on: March 08, 2013, 01:37:00 pm »

Today is international women's day, this is how Bad Dragon celebrated it:

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Scandal! / The many lies of Herro

« on: December 24, 2012, 07:18:45 am »

A few days ago, someone made a thread on lulz.net linking to this:

http://i.imgur.com/aLu2U.gif

The TL:DR is that a furry, popular on FA, called herro is a compulsive liar who pretended to be a woman online for many years (sending people photographs of women telling people they were him) and fooled various people into relationships, traveling to America &c. Additional lies included working for aerospace and engineering corperations, being a millionaire etc etc. Someone on lulz.net said that herro "Scammed thousands of dollars too in gifts and undelivered commissions": http://lulz.net/furi/res/2433604.html

Herro's hand was forced and he posted a journal admitting to some things:

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/4154843/

The most relevant part:

I'm also a liar. I have been lying for a long time. I have been lying to people since I've been on the internet. There is NO ONE on here that knows how I am. I am almost certain that I think think you can talk to any two people who know me and ever get the same story twice.

To the highest possible extent you can imagine someone lying. Imagine something double that. Imagine the most heartbreaking lie someone has ever told to you and I do that all the time. Every day. I lie on a whim about anything. I've lied to people to such an extent that they changed their entire lives around me- and I've never even apologized to them. I've made people fall in love with lives, leave their lovers for lies. I don't know how much worse it can get than that. People go to jail for lesser things. People should go to jail for THESE things.

Rokemi (author of the .gif above) posted a journal urging him to eluicidate further:

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/4155755/

Rokemi was sent a note by someone who'd been strung along by Herro for 4 years and to such an extent that they spent $2500 flying to America in the hope of meeting them:

http://i.imgur.com/Nd3ql.png

Herro posted a second journal admitting to more lies:

I mislead people yes. But I mislead people in love. Not just hey one person, or two people. But several people over the course of many years.

-I told people I was a girl instead of being upfront, and saying "Hey. You know, I feel like a girl. But I'm not."
-I kept misleading people into this lie, even after they gave me chances to come clean. I had all the chances in the world. More than anyone deserves, and instead I lied to them further, convincing them to be comfortable. And 'How dare they question me!?'
-I kept people so in love with me that they fell out of love with the people in their daily lives, the people that actually did love them.
-I made someone break up with their girlfriend for no reason because they thought I was some dreamy person that could be all they ever wanted.
-I made multiple people waste money on me, trying to see me, trying to meet someone who never really existed. Not only their money, but their time, missing work, missing school. Flying to another place, ending up far from home for no reason. For nothing but a lie to try and meet someone they thought they knew. In talking to these people recently, it is not any miniscule amount, it is thousands of dollars in total. All wasted.
-I used my illness with HIV to my advantage to scare people when they got too close, or as an excuse as to why they couldn't ever meet me. I up-played and downplayed how sick I was depending on who was talking to me. Depending on how much sympathy or 'room' I needed.
-For some people I knew, I never TOLD them I had HIV to begin with, which might the most abhorring thing a person can do to anyone who might be close to them at any time.
-I justified having HIV as a reason to myself that "It's okay to do this. I can't ever do anything in real life anyway. I can live all my intimacies online."
-I pretended to have other illnesses just because I knew the symptoms would be similar and people would believe me, and feel sorry.
-I told people I lived in places that I have never, ever been. I told people I was not my age. I told people I as not my race. I told people I worked some dream job, that I was a millionaire, that I was 'famous' for whatever this or that reason.
-I used pictures of people who were not me for my own means, to win affection, to be someone else. Without regard for the personal lives that I was stealing.
-I ruined peoples emotions by using their own friends to get information about them. I used people to build and refine my own lies and life. I used anyone who I knew I could. To betray their own friends.
-I lied about going to get together and meetings, I lied about meeting people there. I made up story after story about where I am, where I was, who I was, just to win sympathy from people, or to escape scrutiny.
-I did anything possible, to keep people from finding out the truth. Without regard to anyone who I might be hurting. I did it so much, and so often, that this has taken SIX years to come to this. And even now people are starting to doubt or question if I am bad as I am. Or If I had been "Hacked" or whatever. No, I am bad. I am a shithead. I did do all these things because in my mind I thought it was right. I did them on purpose.

One thing I have to make clear, again, is that none of the people that I've hurt, or mislead, are dumb, or naive, or gullible, for falling for these things I did. No one would go to the extent that I have gone to make a lie, true. No one is expecting someone to do this to them. No one should ever have someone do this to them. It is not in any way their fault and it makes me feel terrible that people would blame them for being "easily fooled."

There's no way I make it up to any of these people. And that is not the reason I am posting these to begin with. The portions of their lives where I was in it, are gone. They can't get that back, they can't have back wasted time. They can't repair the damage to their trust from me. They're going to always have it in the back of their minds whenever they meet anyone else now. I am lucky to be financially stable, the littlest reparation I can do is at least pay people for their wasted time, wasted effort, wasted money, wasted travel, wasted all things. Therapy? If they elect it, sure. Whatever it may be.

I just want people to understand I'm not trying to "bounce back," I am not looking for forgiveness. I'm not looking to go back to the way things were. In fact there is nothing to go back to. The last decade of my life has been erased. I want to start over in some way. But I don't think it should be here. I'm not going to leave this site until things are right, regardless. I'm not trying to run away.

Though it's a minor thing in light of all this. There are also people voicing concern about commissions; trades. I am not going to just bail on people without working out something they are happy with. If they want the art, they can have it. It they want some sort of compensation. They may also have that.

I know that there are some people who are going to read this, and still feel compassion or sympathy for me, please even if you do, (And I don't think you should. But I'm not here to say how you feel about things, or your capacity for sympathy or empathy.) Please though, keep it quiet. For the people who I've hurt, nothing is going to hurt them more than seeing people "accept" me or say it's alright. If you really do feel for me after all this somehow, make me work for it, and make me earn your trust.

^
www.furaffinity.net/journal/4156899

Despite all this, some people thoughtlessly gushed:

I've got respect for him, because the person he portrays online is an extremely likable, friendly, sociable persona, which says to me the person he WANTS to be is awesome. And he can be. He just needs to stop lying and being so ashamed of himself.

^
This person even drew giftart for Herro: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9529784/

Edit: Gift art now deleted

you awesome!

You are a fantastic artist and i wish i knew you, but I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I've too made mistakes. you are a wonderful person and you will always have friends who will be there for you.

I don't care what you are..we all adore you for being you!! we are not here to judge

Presumably thinking with their dicks since Herro draws furry porn.

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Scandal! / Softpaw contributer arrested(?)

« on: November 02, 2012, 10:42:09 am »

Mizzyam is a furry artist who has contributed to Softpaw magazine (subject matter cub porn). Recently, someone claiming to be his sister posted this journal on his Inkbunny account:

Some Bad News
Hey... This is Mizzy's sister here. I've been given permission to access this account and I'm afraid I have some terrible news.

Mizzy will no longer be participating in online activities for an undetermined length of time. Unfortunately, I cannot tell anyone why, but something awful occurred the other day and those who are close to Mizzy and have been privy to his confessions will have a very good idea of what I;'m referring to. Everyone else, I have some things to inform you of.

Firstly, commissions are on hiatus indefinitely, possibly for good if what Mizzy is afraid will happen does indeed come to pass. However, to those whose pictures he may never get to finish, he will try to find some way to pay you back. I've been given access to his paypal account for the purpose of issuing refunds should it become necessary.

Secondly, all future commissions and projects he tells me he had lined up, are cancelled until further notice.

Some things he would like to note are as follows:

-He cannot be contacted as he no longer has access to a computer.

-He cannot be visited or called by anyone; this is apparently his own choice.

And finally, he wants to say that he knew and expected this day to come and accepts full responsibility for his actions. They were committed knowingly and repeatedly, as he tells me, for little more reason than to justify his own self-loathing.

He still firmly believes he deserves this, and as a result of recent events his depression and self-loathing have magnified immensely. He tells me his life is over, even if not physically, psychologically and emotionally it has. According to him, as soon as things are dealt with, and assuming he isn't locked away, he will never leave this house again or speak to anyone beyond its walls.

I am very worried for him, but I wrote all of this at his request so that people will not be forever wondering why he disappeared off the face of the world. He has told me he won't stop drawing, even if it ha to be on paper. So perhaps one day, if his "rights as a human being" are ever returned to him, he may be able to start posting again.

There is one last thing he wants me to say. He's sorry. Not for himself, but for what this may mean for all of you watching him. And for those that have commissioned him and have been wanting to. He is sorry that his self-loathing has caused him to lose the ability to do the only other thing that ever mattered to him any more aside from drawing for the sake of creation and expression; making all of you happy with the work he produced. Even if he himself never saw the worth in it like all of you did.

Mizzy won't be able to read any comments you may leave, but he has asked me to answer any questions there may be to the best of my abilities. Though I cannot divulge everything, I will try my hardest to alleviate any concerns or curiosities.

I'm sorry this happened as much as he is, because I have to witness the self-destructive downward spiral he has begun. I really hope things get better soon...   

https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=58027
^
screencap: http://i.imgur.com/ETugH.png

Some comments which got deleted:

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Other Topics / Otherkin and Therians regroup on Tumblr: too FAT to be an Elf!

« on: April 16, 2012, 06:52:44 am »

If you visited portal of evil in the early 2000s you might remember otherkin along with therians, elves &c.

As that decade came and went, and especially as livejournal/usenet declined and the forums (tomorrowlands?) where they gathered fell victim to natural wastage, they became less visible or at least that is my perception.

However, they seem to now be re-grouping on Tumblr and even attracting new blood. Although at heart it is still the same lame old Fuck you I'm a dragon with a sad admixture of mental illness, marginalisation, alienation, wanting to belong to a group and too much RPGs and fantasy fiction.

In fact, otherkin seem to be so closely identified with Tumblr now, that some of them feel the need to protest that they're not "a tumblr thing":

1. Otherkin are not a “Tumblr thing”.
The word “otherkin” started in the mid-1990s. Before that, the Silver Elves were writing about being elven in their “Magical Elven Love Letters”, a zine that was first released in 1979. This is before Arpanet was the internet available to people outside of military, meaning that otherkin in the modern sense, existed before the internet. Of course people in many cultures always identified this way, but, did not use the word, “otherkin”.

http://swanblood.tumblr.com/post/14943572483/ten-otherkin-truths

But the truth will out:

You know you’re otherkin/therian/nonhuman when…

Someone you follow reblogs from a blog that has your species in the URL, and you have to check out the blog, just to find out if they also are one of you…

http://swanblood.tumblr.com/post/20499705766/you-know-youre-otherkin-therian-nonhuman-when

As a human ally, if you reblog a post by otherkin and try to teach people about us, people will be more likely to listen to you. Use ally power to spread sensible information about otherkin. If you can reblog the posts of people who don’t get it, and reply with sensible arguments, that helps a lot too!

http://swanblood.tumblr.com/post/17016597954/how-to-be-an-otherkin-ally

-

A common response has always been where are all the cockroach otherkin?:

How come there aren't any cockroach- or naked mole rat-kin?

This question often comes up as a way to put otherkin in their place, so let's get it over with. Yes, most animals and mythical creatures that otherkin identify with are the "cool" ones.

There are two things to keep in mind here. First, otherkin often start on their journey to otherkin-ness by seeing a photo, or painting, or live example of their species that calls to them. Something that fills them with longing, or even with memories, and makes them yearn to live that creature's life.

Let's face it: there aren't a whole lot of chances for naked mole rat-kin to have that kind of experience. So if you want to blame someone, blame the world's artists and storytellers, for not depicting enough naked mole rats.

Second, otherkin aren't stuck identifying as the first species that calls to them. They might think they're a peregrine falcon at first, and then realize the tree swallow's closer to their heart. This doesn't mean they were wrong for choosing to identify as a falcon, earlier. It just means that they've found something more right for them. (Or even that they're both species at the same time.)

Personally, I've run across a combine harvester "machinekin." So I wouldn't rule anything out at this point.

^
http://feathertail.dreamwidth.org/142156.html

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http://www.youtube.com/user/TheriKiNexus/
^
We are, as this channel implies, a nexus of therians & otherkin, atheists, agnostics, Christians & New Agers, from all walks/characteristic modes of travel of this life & beyond, gathered here to share with you what our beliefs & precepts mean to us, & to ask questions & answer yours ; & question our answers, or to question further questions in pertinence to contradicting answers, & otherwise vlog & rant and engage in variegated forms of discourse, rational or otherwise, seriously or otherwise, & to have fun and grow and regress & write in description boxes.

-

http://felkes.tumblr.com/post/20921959198/ive-gotten-sick-of-pointing-this-out-so-im-just
^
THERIANS ARE NOT OTHERKIN

http://felkes.tumblr.com/post/17928435318/not-quite-there-otherkin-and-oppression
^
Otherkin are opressed just like LGBTQ people are

-

http://theobservationsofahalfelf.tumblr.com/post/21161417157/matters-of-appearance-otherkin-and-happiness
^
“WAIT. She can’t identify that way! She’s too FAT to be an Elf!”

And the motherlode:

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/otherkin

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FA Obsession Collection / Pinkuh is finally forced out by or as a result of Sciggles

« on: February 28, 2012, 12:55:04 pm »

The swivel-eyed obese creature known as Pinkuh has lost her FA IRC channel ops and is now completely quit of being FA staff. She resigned as an admin some time ago, but clung onto ops in the FA irc channel so she could still have some targets for her piggy tantrums. Her journal:

I am no longer part of FA staff at all in any way shape form or fashion!

so long and godspeed!

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3219754/

From the comments:

Considering your track record, thank god.

Now we just need to take care of the fact that a fiance is in a position of considerable power without being qualified for it.

Pinkuh's response:

Yeah well, that's what got me removed from staff.

People thought I didn't fight the good fight, but you know? A lot of my track record was created by Dragoneer specifically so he could have a focus on something other then him when the bad calls had to be made. When I was finally no longer part of the main site staff (by my own choice) he didn't have that wall anymore and it just about broke him. All The focus on the site being fucked turned from me to him.

Now it's turned from him to Sciggles, so he has his shield... we will see how long this keeps up.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3219754/#cid:24832418

I'm liking the fact she claims that Dragoneer created her track record so as to distract people from how awful he was. No, I think she was and is solely responsible for her awful reputation, and the idea that not having her as an admin "broke" him is nonsense: he was always broken.

A stopped clock is right twice a day, so it is no surprise that Pinkuh wanted Sciggles out and given that Sciggles is now riding high in the saddle no surprise that it was the little-loved Pinkuh who was pushed out.

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Scandal! / HIV outbreak @ Elliot's

« on: February 20, 2012, 04:04:19 am »

Edit:

Apparently the infection did not in fact happen at Elliot's

Please see this post: https://forums.vivisector.org/index.php/topic,585.msg6468.html#msg6468

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Previous thread about Elliot's events: https://forums.vivisector.org/index.php/topic,388.0.html (features the ever charming sex tent, which is not a navigational instrument )

Unprotected sexual intercourse at Elliots winter carnival/gathering has resulted in an HIV outbreak:



https://twitter.com/#!/SammyFoxArt/status/171452104270024704

EDIT 4: If you are sexually active it is intelligent to be tested regularly. Remember that condoms are made for a reason. I know if feels better without one but its not worth what can happen if you dont where one. Be smart and be safe in every situation.

EDIT3: For people whe are angry that I don't have 100% of the info, sorry to be rude but look I posted this to potentially help peole. Either you are in danger and should get tested or not so don't badger me with questions when I'm just trying to help.

EDIT2: I have removed the name of them event from the journal and have hidden comments realted to the name. I had no intention of blaming the event in any way. If you have had sexual activity with someone within the recent past I strongly urge you to get yourself tested.

this is not a joke. I encourage everyone in the central Florida area to read this. Some friends of mine have informed me that they have learned of a handful of people who attended ____ recently that after being sexually active with people at the event who just found out they had HIVHIV. No names will be said but if you have been sexually active with anyone at the event or since then, especially unprotected I highly encourage you to get tested. I understand that it takes awhile but i urge you to get tested in a couple of months.

Please spread the word to any people you may know that could have possibly been sexually exposed to anyone with HIV. It is really important that you guys get tested if you have any possiblity. There are several centers around Orlando that will test you for free and the sooner you catch it the better chance you have of treatement and the fewer people you will infect.

Please please spread this around. Sorry for the intense title but I just felt like I really needed to get everyones attention.

Edit: For those who informed me that it takes 3 months for tests to be positive, yes I have recontacted my friend and I have been informed that the infected were sexually active with people at this event but contracted it earlier. So people are still in danger.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3196134/

To those who are freaking out about the HIV/AIDS scare...

It's not a hoax. 4chan has nothing to do with this.

It's not a misleading story of revenge, scare tactics or anything.

I'm the one. I tested positive for HIV Friday night. I've freaked out and I've cried and panicked. Word got to my ex, who told the person who originally posted the journal, which caused this shitstorm.

I'm not trying to cause a scare. Just get tested. I did, because I thought it was a good idea.

I learned the nightmare was real. I'm sorry if this scared anyone.

Calm down and get tested as soon as possible. There are places that test for free, and that's where I went.

Just calm down about it, everyone. Yes, I have it. No, I'm not spreading it to anyone else. It's game over for me. I hope everyone else is safe. I really hope that it doesn't go too far, but I fear the worst.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3196509/

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FA Obsession Collection / Sciggles makes new rules about Sonic the hedgehog

« on: February 08, 2012, 04:51:10 pm »

Sciggles is helping.

Sciggles is helping Furaffinity.

Sciggles is helping Furaffinity by inventing rules about how Sonic the hedgehog should be depicted when in erotic situations. She has even seen fit to provide illustrations:

**PLEASE NOTE**
- I am by no means a decent Sonic artist, I have tried to keep close to the original style as possible. You do not have to draw it the same way/style I do. What is important is the text and guidelines. I figured a drawing might help as well.

- Please also note that this does not affect General-rated Sonic art -- only art rated Mature and Adult.

We understand that it has become an issue regarding Sonic art, so I drafted up a guideline. I worked it out with the other admins on what we look for with Mature/Adult Sonic art. This is based off of the very few adult Sonic characters I could find, as well as examples by other artists (which I will link below).

First let me say that if you draw Mature/Adult Sonic art in your own style (instead of canon) it will follow the normal guidelines for Furry art instead of Sonic rules. We will also be making a diagram for that very soon.

We look for things which would qualify the character to more mature ("aged up") compared to how they appear in the games and on the show.

-Head and eyes appear smaller in proportion compared
-Torso becomes smaller in proportion and legs become more elongated.
-Legs need to be longer than the arms.
-For Females: Curves (hourglass) to the torso unless heavyset. Breast size IS NOT a factor in this as even minors develop breasts.
-For Males: Torso becomes less rounded, lengthier and defined.
-Feet and hands become more proportionate to the body, not as large as they appear on original.

These are guidelines to hopefully bring a better understanding to users AND admins. There will still be images that will be borderline, and this will not work for every style and for every artist. We will leave those issues to the discretion of the administration, and we ask that you work with us on those issues.

If anything has been wrongfully deleted we sincerely apologize, as we understand that he rule has been vague. We hope the guidelines will help to keep things enforced equally, and we're working to bring more clarity to the rules.

Samples of what we consider properly aged up sonic art
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4007644
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5456025/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4270359
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4025268
http://jc303.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3bejzh (compared with child image http://jc303.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d31vlgg)
http://images.radcity.net/5942/2684497.gif

http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/114609-Sonic-Guidelines-for-Mature-Adult-Images?p=2843766#post2843766

Sciggles states on her FA profile that "I work 2 jobs, art being my 3rd on the side and I am almost always busy with something": now we know that "something" includes thinking very hard about sonic the hedgehog porn.

Sciggles also posted the image and rules on her own FA account:

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7369414

See Princess Piche and Sciggles micromanage FA on a comment by comment basis.

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News Media / Xanth - Another furry arrested for bestiality

« on: January 25, 2012, 10:08:50 am »

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xanth/

A Metairie man has been arrested on charges of sexually molesting a dog, according to Louisiana State Police. The Jefferson Parish Animal Shelter has taken custody of the dog. Blake T. Sanderford posted a video of the act on the Internet, investigators said.

The 21-year-old Jefferson Parish man was arrested Wednesday for "crimes against nature and aggravated cruelty to animals," according to information from Trooper Melissa Matey. The investigation is ongoing and additional charges may be forthcoming,  she stated in a news release. The arrest of Sanderford followed a complaint made to State Police that the suspect was videotaping the act with the dog.

Troopers assigned to the Bureau of Investigations later found "computer evidence of Sanderford engaged in sexual activity with the dog," according to Matey. Computers were seized. More forensic examinations are being conducted, Matey said. Sanderford remained in jail Thursday night on $11,000 in total bond -- $1,000 for the crimes against nature charge and $10,000 for the cruelty to an animal charge -- officials said.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/01/metairie_man_arrested_for_sex.html

Related journal:

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3110207/

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FA Obsession Collection / Several FA admins quit at once

« on: October 28, 2011, 04:48:47 am »

Recently some people gathered up "dox" on many of the FA staff, compiled it into a list and put that list on pastebin. It was linked to on lulz.net.

One person on lulz.net said of the dox: "They used Google and didn't try very hard. I'd give it a 2/10 for effort". However, it does seem to have been the straw that broke the camels back and 4 admins have quit. They were new admins who'd been brought over from furocity as part of the "merger".

The most detailed statement was given by photografuhrer, the TL:DR being that "I’ve seen FA from behind the scenes. The administrative foundation of FA is badly broken, and the site owners seem unwilling or unable to make the tough decisions that will better serve the site and its users."

I’m a published photographer with nearly 20 years of experience. I’ve been the head of photography over at Furocity for over 2 years. I was asked by one of FA’s site owners to come here and use my experience in the photography field to knowledgeably resolve photo tickets and help users. The same holds true for the other Furocity Admins and their departments.

The site owners repeatedly gave all administrators, old and new, an Administrator Code Of Conduct, which stated that we were to only handle tickets that pertained to our departments (so that rulings could be made by people who understood the intricacies of the art form), as well as how to act professionally. From day-one, some of the original FA administrators have blatantly ignored the Admin Code Of Conduct, repeatedly handling trouble tickets outside of their departments (after countless warnings from owners, and while their own departments’ Terms Of Service tickets go unresolved), undermined and overturned Department Heads’ rulings, shown gross ignorance towards the AUP, spread false information about the AUP and site policies, botched countless trouble ticket rulings, acted unprofessionally, leaked private site information, and have intentionally hampered the ticket/administration process at every turn (we have found proof of this from chat logs, notes, and trouble tickets). Their actions have been childish, petty, and detrimental to the site and its users. The original site owner has known about this gross misconduct, but no action has been taken and nothing has improved. We found evidence in trouble tickets, chat logs, and notes that some of the FA admins were intentionally leaking private information, ignoring site policy, and trying to sabotage the administrative process. The original site owner (Dragoneer) has not effectively reprimanded or fired ANY of the offending admins under his leadership. Every gross violation and problem is met with weak excuses, indifference, and endless second chances. There is no leadership or follow-through.

People with little or no administrative experience, who know nothing about photography, are striving to alter the AUP and destroy the works of fellow photographers and the art form I love.

I’ve seen FA from behind the scenes. The administrative foundation of FA is badly broken, and the site owners seem unwilling or unable to make the tough decisions that will better serve the site and its users.

These issues have made it impossible for me to perform my duties and serve FA’s users in a way that I feel is effective and beneficial. Therefore I am stepping down as an administrator.

I don’t for a moment feel bad for me or any of the staff. I feel bad for you, the user. You deserve a Hell of a lot better.

Please know I tried my best to help users and elevate the art of photography.

Keep creating. Share your heart and vision. Your art is more important than any website.

http://i.imgur.com/qLUfZ.png

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/photografuhrer

Other admins who resigned:

I'm sorry that I have to leave. I had so many high hopes to make a difference here. Unfortunately, circumstances are forcing me to leave. I could deal with hostile admins, but the security issues force me to be realistic about everything.

I apologize to everyone. I did not want to leave. And I hate doing so. I had hoped I would be here for a long time, but that is not the case.

Please be at peace and write with the fire in your hearts and a million universes springing to life in your head.

Thank you, everyone.

Tusen takk!

PS: No, I am not killing myself. Merely removing myself from FA and returning home to Furocity.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2855774/

Mark it zero Dude.
Due to circumstances out my control I will be ending my work here on FA.

I had hopes to make a difference, unfortunately here is where I tried to and the gods will never let this happen here. If your upset because I removed youe pictures of your pussles/assholes, guns, blurry photographs, cock-vore latex suits.

At all times I have tried to honestly improve your user experience but with the weak, unprofessional, childish original staff this proved to be to great a challenge. Being met with endless bickering and bullshit a simple job of helping users on an community art website is impossible.

I certainly wish good luck to the users who fancy photography, your "new" admin staff will be with you prompty.

I'm sure the old administration will continue the TIP TOP job of serving you, the furry community, the very best that you most certainly deserve.

Ohh well,
Back to surfing Reddit

-Luftwooffe

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2855860/

Greetings,

Certain events have transpired that made me question how secure my personal information actually is on FA. I do not wish to be a target for anyone with sinister goals and as such, I've issued my resignation. There were some bumps, but I think it was a pretty good, if short, run.

Perhaps I will see some of you in another lifetime.

-The Grammatist

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2855806/

Also, http://www.furaffinity.net/user/silverrwolfe, is no longer an admin. Whether he was pushed or jumped I dunno, however he was always indolent so it is no loss.

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FA Obsession Collection / Dragoneer makes sockpuppets, on FA & elsewhere, to troll and talk about himself

« on: July 20, 2011, 06:05:24 pm »

Dragoneer made sock puppet accounts on the Furaffinity mainsite, forums and watch your step forums in order to talk about himself and attack Uncle Kage/incite people on WYS to troll on FA.

The creepiest part is that the name he used: Firepyro, was one of the net-names of a man who he had been roomates with, had grown to hate, and who had been killed in a motorcycle accident a few months prior to Dragoneer starting the sockpuppeting. Dragoneer explicitly stated that firepyro was 'named after a dead guy' on the WYS forums.

Rossyfox made a journal on FA about this matter, and Kage read it and asked for proof, Rossyfox responded with evidence and then, very quickly, his account was permabanned and his page wiped clean:  www.furaffinity.net/user/Rossyfox

Your account has been permanently banned for the following reason:
Account has been permanently banned.

was the reason given for the permaban. An Ex-FA admin Witchiebunny stated of this ban:

Page nuking, even down to the comments, isn't standard. That was done out of spite.

Rossyfox's journal is screencapped here: http://i.imgur.com/e1Xv5.jpg

And a .zip of it here: http://www.mediafire.com/?f5yl6750lj9b78p

Now, the evidence and some of Dragoneers socked up posts:

First, the IP address:



The mainsite account is here: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/firepyro (Note the journal intended to attack Allan, another target of Dragoneer's obsessive hate)

This is the profile of Firepyro on the FA forums:

http://forums.furaffinity.net/members/20668-Firepyro

The paw symbol links to the afore linked FA mainsite account.

It seems to have been an abandoned account that was renamed and took over, since the first post ever made by it said their name was sandstalker:

http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/44944-hey%21?p=1056154&highlight=#post1056154

By July 2009 sandstalker had stopped posting. In Febuary 2010, the account started posting again, with a different writing style, and nearly all their posts were about anthrocon/Uncle Kage:

http://tinyurl.com/3ld8fbz

http://tinyurl.com/3wounkl

In one post, Dragoneer/Firepyro got mad at someone who said they were not going to FA: United:

http://tinyurl.com/3lh29pc

(Note that he posted as firepyro just a few minutes after posting as Dragoneer)

However, these FA forum posts are mild compared to what he was doing on the Watch Your Step forum.

The IP address of Dragoneer and Firepyro on the WYS forums were the same, and when the IP adress of one account changed the other did also. The IP address of Dragoneer and Firepyro on the WYS forums matched the IP adresses on the FA mainsite.

Some of his posts from WYS, first his introduction post:

I'm Firepyro. I''m named after a dead guy. I also killed Kennedy. I am a dick, but I love furry art and am pretty much a lurker on FA and shit. I love good drama.

Furp is the person who used 'Firepyro' as a net-name, apparantly on Furrymuck:

So wait. Kage just showed up at FC, and expected that they change their con scheduling last minute to accommodate him? Are you for serious? If that''s true, that''s not just egotistical, that''s almost megalomaniacal - to the point of not just feeling you''re that important, but that you need to be able to all but take over any other con the moment you showed up.

I can share a story, too: a guy I used to know (he used to go by "Preyfar" - you may know of him) started up a bunch of meets and art jams years ago in PA. Small, but had a bunch of people. Mostly at coffee shops in Philadelphia. He told me he did a meet in the King of Prussia mall (old AC stomping grounds). Kage and his crew showed up, and said "Screw the mall, let''s go to the zoo!" and over half the meet blindly followed Kage and everybody else to the zoo. In November. In the rain.

Preyfar got pissed, never held a meet again after it was taken over. Who goes to a zoo in the cold ass rain? Short of FAU, he never ran events since. As he tells it Preyfar/Dragoneer got banned from the PA state furry mailing list and excommunicated from the local group due to him and Kage not getting along. Said there was some stupid argument, and got perma-banned from the list and PA furry events after the mailing list mod decided to fuck with him, changing his settings and continually deleting his profile behind his back.I think that was back in like 2002-2004 era. Used to talk to him a lot back then.

It''s been a while since we last talked, but I know the Kage problems continued for him when AC staffer Furp (RIP) moved in with him in Kyrgyzstan. Furp was bestest buddies with Kage and other AC staffers, and Neer bitched Furp kept causing a buncha butthurt drama, leaking everything he did/said back to the AC staff, causing all sorts of general problems for him at his job where they both worked. Dragoneer had said that the last thing Kagemushi ever said to him was "Welcome to my shitlist, asshole" because they had some difference of opinion, and some twat in his journal called AC "Kagecon" and Neer didn''t blindly jump to his defense, so Kage shit all over him. Been a grudge on Kage''s side against him since.'

He just can't stop talking about himself:

Between Kage and the Dorsai there''s a lot of "bad shit" that goes on, and most people are just sort of blind to it. Dragoneer used to be AC staff before getting thrown off of it after getting into a huge fight with one of the board of directors there over some rape issue. I don''t remember the entire story, but one of the AC board of directors was fucking everybody he could while dating one of Neer''s friends, and Neer called him on it and Kage and the other guy defended his right to sleep around.\r\n\r\nI can''t remember the other guy''s name. Damuth or something. Been a while since I heard the story.',

Gotta love that logic. "Asshole until proven nice." Great, so if you treat people like Dragoneer or 2 as "assholes until proven nice" then they''re going to be assholes back because you''re treating them like shit, then you''re going to go "AH *HA!* See? I was right all along!".

What the hell is with this notion that popular = asshole? Sure, there *are* a few out there that let their ego go to their head, but fucking hell, they''d be egotistical dicks popular or not. Out of all the popular furs I''ve met, almost all have been really nice and take time out to talk to fans, strangers or just about anybody.

The only guy who has consistently been an asshole is Kage, but he treats talking to him like an honor and a privilege. 2? Been really nice. Takes time out to talk to you (even if he''s not interested). Kage will just find a way to give you the ultimate brush off.',

I''d almost go out to say that Dr. Samuel Conway, aka "Kagemushi", could be an eventual candidate for his own article. He creates quite a bit of drama on his own, but he''s a rather "high up" figure, so who knows.

Figured I''d toss some ideas.Gets flown to conventions for free, usually with 2, when not a GOH. As a Ph.D he can''t afford to pay his own drunken ass to go to cons? I mean, he''s always reminding people he, "Dr" Conway, is a Ph.D, and signs his e-mails with it as a non-stop reminder. Surely that must be bank, right?

Created a policy for Anthrocon that removes convention room rates for people who have ghosters staying there. If one of your roommates is a ghoster, he pulls your room reg, then leaves it up to you to deal with the drama of kicking out your roommate to get your room rate back or have to pay full price.

Bans people from Anthrocon who go on news or talk shows, good, and end up making the fandom look bad in the process. They don''t even break AC rules, yet get banned. Worse, Giza (Anthrocon Board of Directors) was on on Sex 2K years and years ago, which was one of the more embarassing furry mockeries ever.

Goes out of his way to portray the fandom as "ultra family friendly", and takes action against people at Anthrocon who don''t portray "family friendly values". Yet, at the same time, he plays Rogue, a character who murders, massacres and masturbates on the corpses of people he''s killed and crushed en masse. That''s his biggest fetish. For a guy who goes out of his way to make the fandom appear family friendly he REALLY plays one of the worst characters in it.For promoting furry as being "family friendly" despite the fact when is he NOT notoriously drunk at conventions, and (worse) generally seen hanging around really young furs (like at RBW).

Per his own e-mails to Silver, Kage defends Tora''s rights to attend Anthrocon, despite him being a convicted pedophile. Not a very "family friendly" decision, yet people like Prawst get an official ban for "uploading videos to youtube" and Insane Kangaroo, who is a nutjob, gets banned for simply having guns in Pittsburgh despite not having been at the con at the time. People get banned outside of AC for shit they don''t do at AC. Guy defends pedophiles as being "good", but bans the Chewfoxs of the fandom for being "bad"? How the FUCK does that work?

Encouraged people not to use FA at his "Introducing Furry to Normal People" panel at AC because the site is one of the "worst examples" to the fandom. And yet, his personal porn stash on his own website is rather large and violent (see Rogue again). If he was truly worried about bad examples why doesn''t he pull his own publicly accessible porn collection that requires no age verification to access?

Allows his Board of Directors to troll other conventions (like FAU) and justifies their trolling by saying he "doesn''t represent the con" on his own time. If you''re Board of Directors and are trolling other cons are you ALWAYS representing your group? http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/20729-Anthrocon-s-staff-trolling-FurAffinity-and-Preyfar-apparently-they-have-no-shamern%5B/list%5DrnI I can probably think of a shitload more, but that''s off the top of my head.'

Dragoneer read Silver''s journals, he probably does check here from time to time. Probably to make sure an article about him doesn''t pop up! Ha!\r\n\r\nBut yeah, Kage''s got a mean streak, and there''s a lot of shit and pressure about the guy. Hence why I posted this. Kage''s got a dark side, and he''s very two-faced about it. At the con, he''s the "front man of the fandom". Nice. Polite. And he loves dictating how furry should be to the public. And when is he NOT in front of a news camera?\r\n\r\nBehind the scenes? Not a nice guy.'

And he was happy to post as himself on WYS too:

I go to AC because of friends, not for the con. Most of the senior con staff like Kage and Giza (especially Giza) hate me with an undying passion (I''m on AC''s official "shit list" - I got banned from AC''s twitter in ''09 for being a "direct threat to the convention" per Giza, Mr. Muth. Why? Hell if I know. I was having fun all con, not doing jack! Banned from AC Twitter, not the con. How does that make sense?). The other half of AC''s staff? Absolutely loves me (and that half gives me all the logs and comments from the site that hates me! Makes for some fun reading.). \n\nhttp://forums.furaffinity.net/threa.....shamennHell, Kage even authorized and permit Giza to troll FA and FAU, and said that "outside of AC, Giza''s actions don''t reflect Anthrocon" (not a direct quote). Yet Giza is on their Board of Directors. Kage greenlit trolling of another convention, unprovoked. Classy fellow. How can you be on the Board of Directors, flame another convention, and your comments NOT reflect the con? Dude even reposted copies of my resume. God bless him. \n\n*cough*\n\nBack on subject: Anthrocon convention has less and less to do with furries each year. The Guests of Honor are all C-and D-list celebrities, not furs, and have almost jack to do with the fandom itself. For sample: Dan de Carlo (RIP), really? Josie and the Pussycats were as far from furry as you can get. Awesome artist, but not a furry or related to furry in any way shape or form. They managed to get the creator Foster''s Home, but did absolutely nothing with him (not even a decent shirt design).\n\nIf you read all the various AC twitters, it looks like they''re trying to appeal to the Mythbusters to go to Anthrocon. I love the Mythbusters, but... really? What do they have to do with the fandom in any way, shape or form?\n\nI think the con wants to be less of a "furry" con more and more. One of my friends is one of AC''s writers, and he was told to refrain from relating to furry and Anthrocon as being anything to do with Pokemon, Ninja Turtles, pretty much anything "recent" or "modern" that our fandom finds interesting. AC is less a "furry con" and more a "con that has furries".\n\nI know that may sound biased given my status with FAU, but I firmly believe that a furry con should be about furs and the community first and foremost. Granted, that''s merely my take on it. Kage does run an efficient con, but hell... I remember when I was on staff in 2001/2002, they didn''t even want fursuiters there. They were an "annoyance".',

I used to know Kage more from his Rogue side, as we /were/ friends for quite a few years (over half a decade). That''s how I got onto Anthrocon staff. I used to think Kage was a great guy, and he was... but something changed. He got egotistical over time, started to buy into his popularity. And that didn''t jive with me.\n\n"Kage''s" version of the fandom is pre-fabricated, white-washed and made for TV. "Rogue''s" version of the fandom is dirty, violent and sex driven. Same guy, two totally different takes. He puts on the "Dr. Samuel Conway, Ph.D" face for the public, always reminding people he runs a family friendly company, that he''s a representative and a showman for the largest "furry" convention there is (and hey, it''s even in the Guinness Book of World Records!). And when nobody''s looking, "Rogue" slips out with an anti-everything outlook to what he represents as "Kage" persona. Two different personalities.\n\nGet Kage drunk enough, I''m sure he''ll curse my name a few times over. In fact, I know he will - he''s done it with me in the room before. Although the reasons he''ll state aren''t the real reasons. He''ll claim it''s because I "post journals bashing people, then delete them". Which is BS. When I have an issue I say it outright (though if/when I go to far, I do pull myself in). I know the truth. He knows the truth.\n\nI think I knew our friendship was over when Kage got busy one day, and while waiting for him to take a shower and get dressed at his apartment, he put on a copy of "Uncle Kage''s Story Hour" to entertain me. He put on a video of himself to entertain me. Yeah, I... no. =\\ It was insulting as hell. Wow, rather than leave me to my own devices for about half an hour, you put on... a recorded version of yourself to entertain me? Really?\n\nEgo.\n\nKage has issues. I think his heart is still in the right place, but the guy has become removed from the fandom. Nowadays he seems more intent on getting in front of every news camera possible. Back when I was on AC staff, it was "talk to the press, get thrown off staff!". \n\nThings changed.\n\nI''m not saying I''m perfect, but I''m also not getting up in front of every TV camera to tell the world how awesome I am, how awesome everything I do is. I''m not submitting FA to the Guinness Book of World Records to show off. I could. But I don''t. That''s now how I am. I created a fake personality (Fender) to soak up all the credit for that. That''s why Fender''s face is the first thing you see on FA. In the FAU conbooks. To soak up the attention as an anti-Kage. Fake person. Fake popularity. That''s specifically why he was made. \n\nThe last thing Kage ever said directly to me was "Welcome to my shitlist, asshole". I never regret standing up to him.'

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FA Obsession Collection / FA and Furocity to 'merge'

« on: July 14, 2011, 06:34:34 am »

Fur Affinity/Furocity Merger Announcement

Fur Affinity and Furocity are joining forces! Our two communities are coming together and pooling our resources to provide the largest, most in-depth online Furry community on the internet!

Along with additional coding expertise, Furocity is bringing improved administrative structure and coordination to Fur Affinity's vast wealth of users.

Dragoneer (FA) and Daemonshyai (Furocity) will share responsibilities of the sites as equals (co-owners). We'll be working together to expand the community and offer a long-term, structured plan to improve the sites, re-aligning our responsibilities and improving end-user support.

It's been a long time coming, but together we feel together we will be able to reinvigorate the Furry communities and bring much needed improvement all around, allowing us to grow and share in ways that were previously unimagined.

We're sorry that we had to be so secretive of things up until now; we've been in talks for over a year, but we had to make sure that all sides were ready, willing, and able before we announced anything to the public. We know that many of you have been asking for (and demanding) change -- it was quite difficult to keep this under our respective hats!

More details are coming soon regarding our announcement. Stay tuned!

http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/103573-Fur-Affinity-Furocity-Merger-Announcement?p=2618095#post2618095

vast wealth of users

re-aligning our responsibilities

allowing us to grow and share in ways that were previously unimagined

A new low there.

So what's actually changing that we'll notice? Are any sites merging? User bases coming together? Is one switching hosting? Just a sharing of talent but the sites remain separated? There's a lot of words but I don't understand what is actually happening.

We're still hammering out some of the finer details, but we will be sharing and posting them once we're 100% on how things are going to go.

In the mean time you'll be seeing new admins and staff coming on board, revised, improved rules and policies and more.

So they've been talking for over a year about the 'merger', but still haven't got down to the details.

Is this having an impact on the summer update? because we still haven't really heard much about that beyond the announcement and the screenshots

We'll have some further news on that soonish. I don't have an ETA on that. We're getting some feedback/suggestions on the design to improve it.

Dragoneer, are there going to be any rules dragged over from Furocity to here?

Some may, but for the most part the rules will stay the same. If you created it... you can post it. Human art will continue to be posted. Some things may be tightened down, some may be loosened, but some of those changes we had planned on our own reviewing how the community works over time.

Several of their mods/admins may be coming over. I believe we have confirmation on two so far.

Both sites will remain indepdent. Staffers will share resources

Both sites are going to stay open and separate. We won't be merging accounts.

So is not a merger then.

It's a resource merger then, not so much a site merger. Basically utilizing staff and their resources than just simply merging different websites.

And the owner of Furocity makes a post:

I suppose I really should throw my hat in the ring here, just to clear up as much as I possibly can.

First, the sites themselves are staying completely separate. What we are doing is combining our respective resources. FA will still be FA. Furocity will still be Furocity.

FA is gaining a group of excellent administrators, which will bring fair, impartial, and timely moderation. FA is also gaining a new programming staff, intent on finding and fixing problems, as well as working on a true update (read: recode) for FA, including many of the features that everyone has been clamoring for (journal favoriting, commission tracking, and more).

No one on FA or Furocity will have to change their usernames. The only real change that users will most likely see (at least until the real coding begins) is an increased turnaround time when they have problems.

Hopefully this will assuage a few of your fears.

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Scandal! / Furrydrama_2 admin Teahound makes some homegrown

« on: June 02, 2011, 03:10:57 pm »

Furrydrama_2 is a live-journal community/treehouse devoted to Furrydrama. The owner/admin, Teahound, recently decided to institute new rules governing language people may use:



Some reactions:

furrydrama_2

June 9th, 2009 to June 1st, 2011

Goodnight sweet prince.

Prince is a patriarchal term, use princess from now on thanks.

But seriously, dude, this is gonna cause soooooo many more problems than it's gonna fix. :c Case in point, see all of the above.

This community is founded on the idea of mocking people and being an asshole 'for fun,' the idea of trying to make something that could already be considered offensive and morally questionable PC for everyone is kind of ridiculous.

There are some really serious offensive slurs I don't think anyone should use, but you know what? People with common decency won't use them. I agree with certain words being banned, but I really think a lot of this is going to far, and falling into the "someone will/can take offense to anything." It's not worth fussing over every little potentially offensive thing someone says, especially here, of all places!

It's not your job to educate people on what's offensive and why, or at least in this kind of environment.

I like you, dude. I think you're awesome, and I do appreciate your effort to be forward-thinking and careful about what kind of language you use. I think it's admirable, honestly. It's just here... it seems fruitless.

Not to be snarky or anything, but I'm... really curious about just how the mods / community is going to enforce this rule when there seems to be a fair percentage that simply don't care on the grounds that this is a drama-mongering, fit-pitching, mud-slinging comm that centers around people doing incredibly [can't think of a substitute for "stupid", "idiotic," or "dumb*," which are ableist, sorry] things, and any entry can explode into 200+ comments or more. It never seemed to be an issue until now, and if anyone was really out of line, they were dealt with in the past easily.

Not to say I don't agree with what you're trying to do, I do, but it seems like you and the other mods might have your hands full, if only because of how language is used today, and few are going to recognise half of these terms as things that are actually carry baggage beyond "lol u 'tard, u so silly."

* You'll have to go back and change the tagline for the comm "A dumb furry does a dumb thing and it is a big surprise always," as it contains ableist language, I guess.

no reference to Hip Hop songs because they pretty much break all the rules. Being legit here.

When Furrydrama_2 can't say 'Furfag' I think we've gone a step too far into being politically correct...

https://forums.vivisector.org/index.php/topic,516.msg5401.html#new

Well, we made it to Vivisector at least. Now we'll be the laughing stock of the five guys who post there.

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Other Topics / RATE MY FURRY!

« on: May 18, 2011, 01:30:17 pm »

Someone, possibly with much time on their hands, made a rate my furry thing, containing a multitude of furry sins:

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RATE MY FURRY! v1.3 fix-attempt, extra stuff added

The furry fandom's all-accepting message of mindless tolerance and blind non-criticism seems to attract all types of human garbage. Choose a random furry and use this sheet to find out how screwed in the head they are!

Fuckup-score compounds as follows:

RELIGION/PHILOSOPHY:

[] Objectivism - add 10 points
[] Nihilism - add 10 points
[] Other non-mainstream philosophical stance - add 7 points
[] Scientologist - add 10 points
[] Fundamentalist Abrahamic - add 10 points
[] Other Cult - add 10 points
[] Wiccan - add 5 points
[] Weekend Wiccan - add 7 points
[] Hippy - add 7 points
[] "Satanist" who doesn't know what satanism actually is - add 7 points
[] Proper Satanist - add 7 points
[] Other fad religion - add 5 points
[] "I'm spiritual" - add 5 points
[] Hates "moralfags" - add 5 points
[] Believes that the "singularity" will solve everyone's problems - add 5 points

FETISHES:

[] Hard vore - add 10 points
[] Soft vore - add 7 points
[] Anal vore - add 10 points
[] Soul vore - add 15 points
[] Unbirth - add 7 points
[] Guro - add 10 points
[] Predator/prey - add 10 points
[] Snuff - add 15 points
[] Rape - add 10 points
[] Sadomasochism - add 7 points
[] Other Sexualised negative behaviors - add 7 for psychologically abusive, 10 for physically abusive, 15 for fatal
[] Macrophilia - add 10 points, plus 15 if enjoys the kaiju aspect/squishing normal sized people/causing destruction
[] Size difference - add 5 points, 10 if heading into ludicrous territory
[] Transhumanism or furry equivalent - add 8 points
[] Mind control - add 7 points
[] Scat - add 8 points, plus 6 for ingestion
[] Watersports - add 7 points, plus 5 for ingestion
[] Amputee - add 7 points
[] Heavy body modification (cybernetics, transmutation, etc) - add 7 points for each type
[] Infantilism (Babyfur/Cubfur) - add 7 points
[] Feeder - add 5 points
[] Gainer - add 5 points
[] Sneezing/Expectoration - add 5 points
[] Inflation - add 5 points, plus 2 points for each of the following: prefers nonorganic substances, prefers gases, prefers food, characters inflate toon-style (whole-body rather than body cavities), crossover with latex/rubber fetish
[] Latex or otherwise nonstandard materials as basis for flesh - add 5 points
[] Mild body modification (piercing, tatoos) - add 5 points for each type
[] Immobilisation - add 5 points
[] Living clothes - add 3 points
[] Other freaky fetishes - add 3 for weird but harmless, 5 for signs of potential psychological damage, 7 for possible escalation to self harm or harm of others
[] Mild fetishes (anal, oral, feet, etc) - add 2 points
[] Cub - add 15 points plus score for above fetishes if crossover occurs (cub vore, cub rape, cub snuff, etc)

ONLINE:

[] Present on Second Life - add 10 points
[] Present in "furry" clique, guild or other organisation - add 5 points for each
[] Present on furry dating site - add 10 points
[] Utilises furry game server - add 5 points for each server
[] Socialises mainly with other furries - add 7 points
[] Socialises only with other furries - add 15 points
[] Present as anon on lulz.net - add 5 points
[] Present as tripfag/namefag on lulz.net - add 7 points
[] Present as anon on tgfb.net - add 5 points
[] Present as tripfag/namefag on tgfb.net - add 10 points
[] Present as anon on pawsru.org - add 7 points
[] Present as tripfag/namefag on pawsru.org - add 10 points
[] Browses FA - add 5 points
[] Empty FA page - add 5 points for each alias
[] Pornless FA artist page - add 7 points for each alias (default settings, rounding up)
[] FA Porn page, mostly vanilla - add 8 points for each alias
[] FA Porn page, 50/50 - add 10 points for each alias
[] FA Porn page, mostly fetishy - add 15 points for each alias
[] Browses Inkbunny - add 7 points
[] Empty Inkbunny page - add 7 points for each alias
[] Pornless Inkbunny artist page - add 9 points for each alias (default settings, rounding up)
[] Inkbunny Porn page, mostly vanilla - add 10 points for each alias
[] Inkbunny Porn page, 50/50 - add 15 points for each alias
[] Inkbunny Porn page, mostly fetishy - add 20 points for each alias
[] Has cub art on Inkbunny - 20 point bonus
[] Donated to Inkbunny - add points equalling 5 x numerical donator rank
[] Browses DA - 3 points
[] Empty DA page - add 3 points for each alias
[] Pornless DA artist page - add 5 points for each alias (default settings, rounding up)
[] DA "Erotica" page, mostly vanilla - add 6 points for each alias
[] DA "Erotica" page, 50/50 - add 8 points for each alias
[] DA "Erotica" page, mostly fetishy - add 10 points for each alias
[] Art site page full of nothing but photographs or bad poetry - add 20 points, + 10 if photographs are "erotic art"
[] Reads Vivisector - add 5 points
[] Posts on Vivisector - add 10 points
[] Reads Flayrah - add 10 points
[] Writes for Flayrah - add 15 points
[] Comments on Flayrah - add 15 points
[] Has a hand in operating Flayrah - add 20 points
[] Browses FA forums - add 5 points
[] Posts on FA forums - add 10 points
[] Browses Eka's Portal - add 15 points
[] Posts on Eka's Portal - add 25 points
[] Browses Cubcentral - add 15 points
[] Posts on Cubcentral - add 25 points
[] Notes were in the FA note leak - add 10 points
[] Underage b& - add 10 points

REAL LIFE:

[] Attends furry cons - add 8 points for each con in an average year
[] Socialises with other furries in local area on regular basis - add 5 points for each furry
[] Socialises only with other furries - add 20 point bonus
[] "Fursuiter" (Ear hood and fake tail) - add 5 points
[] Fursuiter with second hand mascot costume - add 7 points
[] Fursuiter with home-made mediocre-quality costume - add 10 points
[] Fursuiter with exquisitely crafted and/or sleekly figure-hugging/enhancing fursuit - add 10 points, plus 5 for each extra (movable jaw, follow-me eyes, cooling system, etc)
[] Fursuiter with suit posessing Strategically-Placed Hole/s - add 10 points, plus 5 for each hole after the first, plus a 10 point bonus if suit has mounting points for sex toys
[] Owns a porn site - add 20 points
[] Moderator or other authority on a porn site (inc. forums/imageboards/boorus) - add 15 points
[] String of failed furry-oriented endeavors - add 10 points for each
[] Hair died in ridiculous colors and/or stripes or partial dyejob (bangs, ponytail, beard, etc) - 10 points, plus 5 points for each extra color
[] Is Sage Freehaven - add 20 points immediately
[] Is Sechs Fuckheaven - add 30 points immediately (yes, if you honestly believe it to be so, you may tick both this one and the last)
[] Is Sechs/Sage crony - add 15 points
[] Is Cigarskunk - add 20 points
[] Is Crassus - add 20 points
[] Is Betawolf - add 20 points
[] Is Dragoneer - add 20 points
[] Is Starling - add 20 points
[] Is Greenreaper add 20 points
[] Is Michael Hirtes - add 18 points
[] Is Onta - add 18 points
[] Is Jeremy Bernal - add 18 points
[] Is Minnieshoof - add 17 points
[] Is Sciggles - add 15 points
[] Is Jay Naylor - add 15 points
[] Is Miss Mab - add 15 points
[] Is Miranda Leigh - add 15 points
[] Is Jollyjack - add 15 points
[] Is Vera - add 13 points
[] Is Sharue - add 13 points
[] Is Blitza - add 13 points
[] Is Allan - add 13 points
[] Is InsaneKangaroo - add 13 points
[] Is Ch00b - add 1 point
[] Name otherwise known in fandom - add 7 points, plus 3 points for occasional drama or 5 points for constant drama, plus wildcard douche-rating, if douchey
[] Is Russian - add 5 points
[] Is French - add 5 points
[] Is Japanese - add 3 points
[] Is American - add 2 points

ART:

[] Obsession with smirking characters - add 5 points
[] >60% of characters have heavy-lidded or eyes-half-closed expressions - add 5 points
[] Constant overuse of smugface/everyone has the "Dreamworks face" - add 5 points
[] Draws fur as colored skin - add 5 points, plus another 5 for fur that shines like sweaty skin
[] Draws porn - add 5 points
[] Draws fetish porn (besides "furry") - add 10 points
[] Draws cub porn - add 15, plus 20 point bonus if they have children themselves
[] Draws cub fetish porn - add 20 points, plus 40 point bonus if they have children themselves
[] Drew for Betawolf under duress - add 5 points
[] Drew for Betawolf of their own volition - add 20 points
[] Posts porn of their personal character - add 7 points
[] Posts fetish porn of their personal character - add 10 points
[] Posts fetish porn of their significant other's personal character - add 10 points
[] Posts porn of their personal character fucking their significant other's personal character - add 15 points
[] Posts porn of their personal character doing fetishy things to their significant other's personal character or vice versa - add 20 points
[] Posts art of their personal character doing something unpleasant to an ex-lover's personal character - add 15 points
[] Art features genitalia and/or breasts that are incredibly detailed in comparison to everything else - add 15 points
[] Has sold art on any furry-oriented bidding site - add 15 points
[] Draws art featuring their self-insert acting out against percieved slights in some fashion other than violent - add 10 points
[] Draws art featuring their self-insert acting out against percieved slights in a violent fashion - add 15 points
[] Publically posts very personal gift art for or from friends - add 10 points
[] Spams gift art in an effort to schmooze other artists - add 15 points
[] Wipes gallery for "tidiness" - add 5 points for each occasion within the last year
[] Wipes gallery due to drama - add 10 points for each occasion within the last five years
[] Wipes gallery due to self-induced plague of creepy stalkers - add 15 points for each occasion within the last decade
[] Draws spank fodder but believes it is "erotica" or "erotic art"
[] Is a commission whore - add 15 points
[] Claims art whoring is in aid of some vaguely-defined goal - add 5 points
[] Follows the lead of another artist in everything they do - add 5 points
[] Has created utterly horrible "deep" artwork in response to a disaster, dire tragedy or terrorist act - add 10 points
[] Can't draw but doesn't realise it - add 5 points
[] Drawing ability has plateau'd - add 7 points
[] Hasn't improved in X years - add 7 points
[] Could draw, has lost the ability - add 10 points
[] Could never draw, has somehow gotten worse - add 15 points
[] Dodge and burn. Dodge and burn everywhere - add 10 points
[] Trying to imitate the style of another artist - add 10 points
[] Traces artwork - add 15 points
[] Created furry webcomic - add 10 points, plus 5 point bonus for every main character that is either based on the artist or a friend of the artist, plus 10 point bonus if the plot and/or setting smack of vast amounts of wishful thinking
[] Draws for a furry webcomic - add 10 points
[] Writes for a furry webcomic - add 10 points
[] Webcomic pages are often wordswordswords/wall o' text - add 10 points
[] Derp faces - add 10 points
[] Anatomy crimes - add 10 points for each type you can spot
[] Creates anthro characters by sticking fur to a human body and sitting an unaltered animal head on top - add 15 points
[] Draws tails as coming out of body somewhere other than the end of the spine - add 10 points
[] Drawn females all look like males - add 10 points
[] Drawn males all look like females - add 10 points
[] Everything drawn looks like it is obeying geometric rules from another universe - add 7 points
[] Every character looks like they're either melting or sublimating into a gas - add 10 points
[] Text is illegible - add 5 points, 10 if the person responsible insists it's a stylistic choice
[] Endless white void syndrome - artist cannot or will not draw backgrounds - add 10 points
[] Photoshopped photo backgrounds - artist is lazy - add 7 points
[] Draws art "to fuck with people's heads" - add 15 points and slap them for being a pretentious twit
[] Confirmed female who creates mostly gay material - add 10 points
[] Confirmed male who creates mostly lesbian material - add 10 points
[] Manga/anime influence detectable in art - add 10 points
[] Overwhelming manga/anime influence detectable in art - add 15 points, plus 5 points if art is littered with face-faults, sidemouth/cheekmouth and/or snoutface
[] Gallery full of character reference sheets - add 10 points
[] Makes living off drawing commissioned character reference sheets - add 15 points
[] Has suddenly changed to a style that makes everything they draw ugly and/or shows up a lot more of the flaws in their work, and claims that they prefer it - add 15 points