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Public Discourse => News Media => Topic started by: Conan on February 16, 2013, 11:13:17 am
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Timothy McCormick, better known as "LemonadeCoyote", died this morning after being involved in a traffic accident. WXIN-TV reports that a 21-year-old female with "alcohol on [her] breath" was driving a
SUV fucking Honda that blew through a flashing red light and t-boned the ambulance that LemoadeCoyote and a co-worker were in (They're EMTs).
http://fox59.com/2013/02/16/ambulance-involved-in-crash-downtown/#axzz2L5gTtqzu
Better news coverage: http://www.wthr.com/story/21223052/one-emt-killed-another-in-critical-condition-after-crash
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I'm kind of confused what the point of this post is.
They died in a car crash, heart goes out to their friends and loved ones, but also: what is notable about this. Is there a reason a furry muckraking site should be an obituary for furry subculture participants.
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a furry muckraking site
You seem to have missed somewhat the intention of the site.
And we've made note of notable deaths for years. Viv is disturbingly informative.
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I'm with Camellia. There's no controversy, no mystery, he didn't die doing anything furry, he hasn't been featured on Viv before...
This sort of thing belongs on the "furry" "news" "sites".
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Thank you for your valuable input. It will be summarily digested and ignored. Fuck you and have a nice day.
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Viv is a living chronicle of the furry fandom, its highs, its lows, its births, its unbirths, and its deaths. RIP dude, and everyone else, drive safe.
also jesus christ, "a car smashed into an ambulance and killed the EMTs inside" is the ultimate in horrific irony.
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I'm with Camellia. There's no controversy, no mystery, he didn't die doing anything furry, he hasn't been featured on Viv before...
This sort of thing belongs on the "furry" "news" "sites".
Funny that you mention that, since this thread was posted in a subforum called News Media.
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<Conan|3> you know what's really fucking sad
<Conan|3> there hasn't really been any movement to -do something- for anyone related to the lemonadecoyote thing, but when a sandwich shop goes out of business, the fandom forks over $20k in a few hours.
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Pretty fucked way to die.
More fucked when former "friends" try to profit off your death by preying on the gullible, as seems to be the case involving one Kilian Kray, AKA: Skrat
http://i.imgur.com/OVf7icy.jpg
The Fallout in the comments:
http://i.imgur.com/C6Za6lv.jpg
Welp.
http://i.imgur.com/tCEPnDb.jpg
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As I write this, it's about 15 minutes from the exact time of the one year anniversary of Lemonade's death. I thought that a follow-up post about this topic was deserved, based on what's transpired in the past year.
The past year has been interesting, to say the least. After a huge outpouring of Internet Sadness, this whole event pretty much faded into Fandom History. Despite a general consensus that Lemonade/Tim was well loved in the Fandom and died while doing a rather noble job, here was no attempt made at getting anyone to do much of anything other than saying how upset they were online. One of the few things that spawned from it was the creation of a general remembrance event at FWA, or at least it drew attention to the fact that existed (I believe I've seen these events on con schedules long ago).
One reason nothing was done was because Kage, arguably one of the very few people that could have organized something, didn't do anything more than go to Tim's memorial service in Brooklyn and drink afterwards. The man who has no problem begging people to give money to 2gryphon, a sandwich shop, and now an one-time Anthrocon GoH who's ties to the fandom are negligible at best, couldn't apparently find it in himself to try to organize anything for someone he called a "friend". Instead, he now apparently uses this event as some sort of twisted fandom promotional tool. The videos are apparently on YouTube of him pontificating on stage about it.
There's no doubt in my mind that, if the fandom can raise $20,000 in a matter of hours for a sandwich shop, that we couldn't have done something here in remembrance of both Tim and his co-worker. The possibilities are pretty much endless, even if it was as boring as kickstarting the scholarship fund (http://fox59.com/2014/02/10/scholarship-honors-medics-killed-while-on-duty/#axzz2tTBX97Xq) the IEMS set up. If the fandom donated as much money to the scholarship as they did to Fernando's, they could put almost four people through EMS training for free.
Instead, we're left thinking "what if", while people throw money at the ridiculous "causes" trumpeted by the kings of the fandom.
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There was a brief thing that popped up on reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/furry/comments/1xqh1g/about_tim/) - posted by his brother, mind you, not by a furry. Otherwise, yeah. Even something to help cover the funeral costs would have been helpful, that's several thousand dollars at least.
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IIRC , some of us were working on getting a memorial fund started.. but he wasn't exactly.. in his parent's approval, nor was his lifestyle.
They kinda asked people to stop using his name to do anything.
That's why it kinda ended.
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Although I love ragging on Kage, I don't think 'your famous and didn't do enough about thing X I care about' is a valid complaint. Kage has frivolous and nebulous fund raisers than annoy you? Let's bitch that he didn't have another! AKA, the kinderegg argument.
Despite a general consensus that Lemonade/Tim was well loved in the Fandom and died while doing a rather noble job, here was no attempt made at getting anyone to do much of anything other than saying how upset they were online.
They could have raised money to research the cause and cure of car crashes? It's a tragedy, but I don't see as easy of a 'give money to' option here as say, the kid who took the circlerope portal to equestria.
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Lord Nag, do you try to be this embarrassingly thick or did your brain just stop developing when you were 12?
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IIRC , some of us were working on getting a memorial fund started.. but he wasn't exactly.. in his parent's approval, nor was his lifestyle.
They kinda asked people to stop using his name to do anything.
That's why it kinda ended.
As his sister points out in that thread, their mother seems to have warmed up to the furries. However, her other Reddit posts seem to show that their mother has gone absolutely wacky (http://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists/comments/1ux5r6/nmom_aware_of_my_anxiety_preys_on_it_and_punishes/) (more than before (http://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists/comments/1ov8aw/getting_extremely_difficult_to_live_with_my_mom/) and is going out looking for attention.
Maybe nothing happening was in the family's best interest. I really would not want to see his parents become another set of the weird "fandom parents" group that has been increasing in numbers recently.
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Maybe nothing happening was in the family's best interest. I really would not want to see his parents become another set of the weird "fandom parents" group that has been increasing in numbers recently.
A group that pretty much just contains zero people with dead sons. What, would you expect them to just come to cons to mope or something?
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Whether his parents were comfortable around furries or not, I think, more than anything, his parents probably weren't prepared to deal with the internet fame phenomenon... The extent to which furries keep up on each other's lives and the outpouring of support from 10,000 of his closest friends was something they probably didn't expect, and albeit well-meaning, I think a lot of people who don't really know much about furries would be kind of shocked by it... like "who are you people anyway?" I think that's how my parents would react in the same situation, they wouldn't exactly appreciate the thousands of people they never heard of somehow being involved in what they would think is a private family affair, despite those people having good intentions.