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Daggers and Spears and Songs => FA Obsession Collection => Topic started by: a pigeon on February 08, 2012, 04:51:10 pm
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Sciggles is helping.
Sciggles is helping Furaffinity.
Sciggles is helping Furaffinity by inventing rules about how Sonic the hedgehog should be depicted when in erotic situations. She has even seen fit to provide illustrations:
(http://i.imgur.com/KTdvl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZAxPS.jpg)
**PLEASE NOTE**
- I am by no means a decent Sonic artist, I have tried to keep close to the original style as possible. You do not have to draw it the same way/style I do. What is important is the text and guidelines. I figured a drawing might help as well.
- Please also note that this does not affect General-rated Sonic art -- only art rated Mature and Adult.
We understand that it has become an issue regarding Sonic art, so I drafted up a guideline. I worked it out with the other admins on what we look for with Mature/Adult Sonic art. This is based off of the very few adult Sonic characters I could find, as well as examples by other artists (which I will link below).
First let me say that if you draw Mature/Adult Sonic art in your own style (instead of canon) it will follow the normal guidelines for Furry art instead of Sonic rules. We will also be making a diagram for that very soon.
We look for things which would qualify the character to more mature ("aged up") compared to how they appear in the games and on the show.
-Head and eyes appear smaller in proportion compared
-Torso becomes smaller in proportion and legs become more elongated.
-Legs need to be longer than the arms.
-For Females: Curves (hourglass) to the torso unless heavyset. Breast size IS NOT a factor in this as even minors develop breasts.
-For Males: Torso becomes less rounded, lengthier and defined.
-Feet and hands become more proportionate to the body, not as large as they appear on original.
These are guidelines to hopefully bring a better understanding to users AND admins. There will still be images that will be borderline, and this will not work for every style and for every artist. We will leave those issues to the discretion of the administration, and we ask that you work with us on those issues.
If anything has been wrongfully deleted we sincerely apologize, as we understand that he rule has been vague. We hope the guidelines will help to keep things enforced equally, and we're working to bring more clarity to the rules.
Samples of what we consider properly aged up sonic art
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4007644
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5456025/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4270359
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4025268
http://jc303.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3bejzh (compared with child image http://jc303.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d31vlgg)
http://images.radcity.net/5942/2684497.gif
http://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/114609-Sonic-Guidelines-for-Mature-Adult-Images?p=2843766#post2843766
Sciggles states on her FA profile that "I work 2 jobs, art being my 3rd on the side and I am almost always busy with something": now we know that "something" includes thinking very hard about sonic the hedgehog porn.
Sciggles also posted the image and rules on her own FA account:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7369414
See Princess Piche and Sciggles micromanage FA on a comment by comment basis.
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I don't recall an admin going from "ticket wrangler" to "rule-drafting ticket wrangler" this quickly ever.
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More information about the situation which caused this to occur:
Sciggles deleted images of Sonic porn belonging to FA user IS (Instant Sonic) -- http://www.furaffinity.net/user/is -- under the reasoning of "this art displayed cub porn" (despite rules saying you can draw porn of underage Sonic characters if you age them up, which IS allegedly did). IS, in a fit of rage, wiped their entire gallery and submitted an image of a dildo (which got them banned). This led to Sciggles' submission about "guidelines" for drawing Sonic porn.
So, yeah...FA is now dictating artistic style "policy" to its artists.
Congrats, Sciggles - you're gonna carry that weight.
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Hahahahaha, I work two jobs but I can spend an hour in Photoshop coming up with pointless bullshit. The only problem here, is that these two have no idea how stupid, shallow, and utterly pointless they are.
Must be nice.
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(http://i.imgur.com/N6geI.jpg)
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7369414#cid:52240561
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(http://i.imgur.com/LOJN8.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/BGeEn.png)
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7369414#cid:52243720
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man wouldn't it be bitchin' if anyone involved here, anyone at all, was competent?
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I'm noticing a lot of hate for Sciggles in this thread. Now, I consider myself a peacemaker, and I cannot stand idly by while injustice is perpetrated and slander flows like the Hudson River, which, like this thread, is heavily polluted.
How else can I say it? Friends, you are either closing your eyes to a situation you do not wish to acknowledge, or you are not aware of the caliber of disaster indicated by the presence of a Sonic porn following in your community. Oh ho, you may say, "But Sonic porn is not like cub porn!" And I say, allow me through the usefulness of reason and logic convince you of the opposite.
Imagine, if you will, a pale, white pasty boy. Everything about him screams, "cute." Big, blue eyes, gleaming with unbridled happiness. A smile so wide you could use it as a saw and cut logs or use it in various woodworking projects. Skin smooth as the silkiest butter in the world. One of those sailor's tie things. Fuck. I don't know what they're called. Uh. A glove in one hand, perhaps mimicking Michael Jackson. And a hat too small to fit around his skull, so it balances precariously on his head.
Now imagine him naked otherwise. Accuse me of sickness in the head if you wish, for you instead would be pervert! For I have described an existing character, and he is real.
Yes, I have just described...
(http://i.imgur.com/PaE8N.jpg)
...the Pillsbury Doughboy, famous icon of the Pillsbury Company, manufacturer of baked goods and other delights. Nobody knows how old he is. A timeless icon. Sure, I wrote "boy" above, but he is a "doughboy", slang for an American soldier during WW1. Look at his face and tell me you know how old he is. Has he gone through puberty? Do beings of pure dough or similar confections even go through a puberty stage? I say, who are we to know? What of his voice? Does it belong to a cartoonish cherub or a small, exploitable child?
Of course, I have the answer:
(http://i.imgur.com/yKR8C.png)
Jesus Motherfucking Christ, Jr. Look at those proportions. Almost a perfect match. Note the similar head sizes, the arm lengths, the small, the stubby legs the mainly distinguishing characteristic of the small bakery being. As we all know that Sciggles is obviously correct on the age of Sonic, anyone who draws the Pillsbury Doughboy in a sexual situation is a disgusting pedophile, deserving of the tender loving of a lifetime in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison. Any portrayal of Mr. Doughboy pounding the flour, so to speak, deserves to be stamped out, and it is a threat to the very fabric of our online community.
Just as I hope you recognize the threat that Sonic porn brings to the furry fandom, we must be vigilant to beware the Doughboy menace. If we do not clamp down on the portrayal of cartoonish characters in pornographic scenes, we could very well live soon in a world where this pasty imp is splattering a lewd cream-cheese-frosting-like substance across the unsuspecting face of the Internet. Forever.
Take a stand with me, friends. Sonic porn is only the first threat to our community. The Pillsbury Doughboy is the next wave, and close at hand, too. Stay strong, comrades.
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The FA(F) crowd are not the kind who would appreciate deadpan satire, as commendable as your effort there is, zed. The best you can hope for is a 12-watt realization that you're "calling them stupid".
To paraphrase another comment somewhere: "His great-great-grandfather was executed in Ireland for taking Jonathan Swift literally."
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Who the fuck are you? Get the hell out.
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So, I've I've been poking around here for a while and I figured I'd join up and contribute.
I'm not sure if anyone here has seen this yet, but I just figured I'd help spread this deliciousness around.
APPARENTLY, Sciggles is an owner of FA now too. She also has some amazing PR skills. As seen in this screen shot going around.
http://i.imgur.com/iogo5.jpg
She wants to ban even more shit from FA and it's laughable. She basically wants to drive another huge wave of people out of FA. With the way she's going, she might as well be called the SOPA of FA. If she really does get her way (which probably is gonna happen, because her fat walking wallet lets her do whatever the fuck she wants on FA), I'd say she'd be draggin FA to new lows at record speed.
Thoughts?
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[blah blah blah]
It's a fake.
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[blah blah blah]
It's a fake.
Yeah, I'm starting to hear that cycle around now. A little disappointing as it'd be nice if something huge like that did happen to shake things up.
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But she's totally the kind of person who would claim ownership of FA simply because she can claim ownership of Dragoneer, which is the totally accurate point there.
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So, I've I've been poking around here for a while and I figured I'd join up and contribute.
I'm not sure if anyone here has seen this yet, but I just figured I'd help spread this deliciousness around.
APPARENTLY, Sciggles is an owner of FA now too. She also has some amazing PR skills. As seen in this screen shot going around.
http://i.imgur.com/iogo5.jpg
She wants to ban even more shit from FA and it's laughable. She basically wants to drive another huge wave of people out of FA. With the way she's going, she might as well be called the SOPA of FA. If she really does get her way (which probably is gonna happen, because her fat walking wallet lets her do whatever the fuck she wants on FA), I'd say she'd be draggin FA to new lows at record speed.
Thoughts?
[04:56] <Fiz> jesus christ i can make a more convincing fakecap in my sleep
(http://i.imgur.com/cUH4r.png)
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[04:56] <Fiz> jesus christ i can make a more convincing fakecap in my sleep
(http://i.imgur.com/cUH4r.png)
Ooh, ooh, I love this game.
(http://i.imgur.com/DVd87.png)