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FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« on: May 27, 2016, 05:05:28 am »
Some pedophile babyfur uploaded a ton of cub porn to FN the other day, flooding the new uploads pages and prompting people to freak the fuck out that content they don't like was being uploaded to a site that makes it really easy to block content you don't like.

Naturally, both sides are acting like children as they debate the issue, with the anti-cub side threatening to leave unless cub porn is banned entirely and never uploaded to the site (because, you know, nobody ever uploads it to FA), while the other side threatens to... go back to Inkbunny I guess?

FN tried to come to a middle ground by announcing the development of a global default blacklist, which would require users to explicitly opt-in to viewing such material, but that still doesn't seem to be pleasing the anti-cub people.

Furry Network claims they will make a decision that's not based on who's shouting the loudest, but based on how fast Varka killed off Herpy.net, I suspect they'll break and the cub "enthusiasts" will waddle their soiled diapers right back to Inkbunny.

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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2016, 08:45:11 am »
There's someone #Offended the fledgling site they're on allows de facto child porn, opening themselves up for hostile takeover by the kiddie diddlers and authority crackdowns?

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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2016, 09:43:34 am »
People arent mad that they have to see the stuff, theyre mad it even EXISTS, hence why the "you can filter it out" appeal doesnt really convince anyone.
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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2016, 12:12:29 pm »
There's someone #Offended the fledgling site they're on allows de facto child porn, opening themselves up for hostile takeover by the kiddie diddlers and authority crackdowns?

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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2016, 06:06:10 pm »
i can't tell if that dude is breitbarting all over his pants and dripping into his shoes and onto the floor ironically, or post-ironic ironically, or post-anti-ironically. clearly i am like a little baby

that said there was a definite, pre-2008 era where people used to be a lot more sane about this cub shit. then, sometime during the arcturus-era e621 slapfights, people realized that they could club siterunners over the head with it in order to further unrelated agendas.

it's interesting that both fa and e621 are now ""managed"" financially by larger entities and can trace the financial troubles that led to that right back to people using unfortunate court precedents and obscenity laws to snipe at each other's website payment providers. gee, it's almost as if nobody wins when you pull that shit.
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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2016, 08:09:19 pm »
hi, just a reminder that the "inkbunny is for pedos" thing literally came from dragoneer back when FA stopped allowing cub porn
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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2016, 09:55:08 pm »
well yeah

who can forget piche's lovely little cameo in softpaw magazine too
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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2016, 12:51:30 am »

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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2016, 12:53:01 pm »
I've always wondered about how stuff like this is enforced. Will MLP characters be banned, since they are clearly meant to be very young girls though age is, i assume, never made explicit for them from any official source? A lot of furry porn comes from children's cartoons and so the characters are meant to be very young as a way to relate to give children something to relate to, but the way it's enforced doesn't reflect that at all usually.

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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 04:57:55 pm »
MLP uses distinctly different shapes for children and adult characters, and all of the main characters use the "adult" model.

Their AUP states:

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Content that contains minors in sexual situations or who are suggestive in appearance is prohibited
Minors are defined as human or animal characters who are younger than 18 years old, or whose body is prepubescent in appearance

So, as long as you aren't going out of your way to draw the intentionally underage characters, stuff like that should (I assume) be fine.

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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2016, 06:42:42 pm »
I've always wondered about how stuff like this is enforced. Will MLP characters be banned, since they are clearly meant to be very young girls though age is, i assume, never made explicit for them from any official source? A lot of furry porn comes from children's cartoons and so the characters are meant to be very young as a way to relate to give children something to relate to, but the way it's enforced doesn't reflect that at all usually.
remember tiny toons? for some reason nobody gave a fuck back in the 90s, probably because that shit made up over half of all furry spank material for the first decade and a half of the subculture's existence.

for that matter, remember the SONIC PANIC of 2012?

people only care about this shit when it's convenient to care
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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2016, 06:50:24 pm »
MLP uses distinctly different shapes for children and adult characters, and all of the main characters use the "adult" model.

Their AUP states:

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Content that contains minors in sexual situations or who are suggestive in appearance is prohibited
Minors are defined as human or animal characters who are younger than 18 years old, or whose body is prepubescent in appearance

So, as long as you aren't going out of your way to draw the intentionally underage characters, stuff like that should (I assume) be fine.

That misses the point of what I was saying. The main cast of the pony show are older than the very younger characters featured elsewhere in the cast, but they're still pretty clearly intended to be young girls, not adults. The adult coded characters in the show are few and far between.

I'm not going to get into the semantics of this any further than this however. You either get what I mean or you don't.

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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2016, 07:13:17 pm »
I've always wondered about how stuff like this is enforced.

the strength of the enforcement is inversely proportional to the popularity of the artist plus a random factor based on how the enforcer is feeling at the time
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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2016, 06:00:01 am »

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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2016, 12:06:06 pm »
help my first amendment rights are being suppressed by this privately-owned web site

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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2016, 07:36:04 pm »
lol crassus
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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2016, 12:12:02 am »

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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2016, 06:54:20 am »
#CUBGATE

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I hope all of you already know I am very vehemently opposed to the ban, and not just because that is what I masturbate to. Before I begin, in a great attempt to be as fair and objective as I am capable of, I will say I have natural traits that encourage bias towards these positions and arguments I will state and expound on. Those who bothered studying my profile or read a few postings of mine already know I am hebephilic, which is a sexual orientation (cue the massed counterfire from the various -sexuals, especially the minority ones) entailing the preference for children around the age of onset of puberty (the fancy term for that age is peripubescent).

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If it weren't for the rest of the many, many words in that journal, I'd think this was a parody of pro-cub porn people.

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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2016, 10:19:48 am »
i can't tell if that dude is breitbarting all over his pants

There's no other appropriate response than satire for a whammy like this.

Naturally, both sides are acting like children

Ah yes, "both sides." In the blue corner there's the well-adjusted who do the sane thing and tell the kiddie diddlers to fuck off, because if you don't they and the dog-fuckers worm their way into leadership roles as happened on FA, and in the red corner we have those who believe if you scream Freeze Peach and Rational loud enough it means you're correct.

I can totally see how both sides operate on the same level of maturity, alright. (If you use tactics preferred by the anti-SJ shitheads like false equivalency, chances are good you're wrong.)

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Re: FN Users Panic About Cub Porn
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2016, 09:31:00 pm »
Being right doesn't mean you aren't acting like a child.